reCaptcha Spamming Internet, never punished by Google?

Discussion in 'General Business' started by Tarkan, Jul 27, 2009.

  1. #1
    I know recaptcha is a really nice captcha software and I do usually use it. But at some point, I decided to get rid of captcha because of a compatibility issue. Before you know it, the site was spammed so much, with nonsense comments and they all link to.........recaptcha.org ??

    Seems like, recaptcha has been spamming everyone's websites with their bots so that you'll go and grab recaptcha for your site. Pretty despicable act.

    And this isn't a fluke, it has happened to many other sites that forget to put captcha. It's like as if, the real spammers of the world learned long ago, that spamming isn't helping their websites, and now only recaptcha is doing it to keep in business.

    And before anyone says "how do you know recaptcha did it?", well it's the only site these spammers link to, what's the point of spamming? Linking to a website. And they always link to recaptcha, nowhere else.

    I think Google should severely penalize recaptcha's PR of 8. They are the most disgusting black hat SEO spammers in the world.

    I can't believe Google has allowed recaptcha to survive for so long.

    Until Mollom or some other service becomes absolutely free, I think many people will be stuck with recaptcha's terrible service.

    I recommend we try... try (I know it's difficult with so few alternatives)... to boycott these spammers.
     
    Tarkan, Jul 27, 2009 IP
  2. SearchBliss

    SearchBliss Well-Known Member

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    #2
    Can we see proof of this?
     
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  3. coolamazer

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    #3
    You may need to back your comments up by proof. This is a serious accusation you are making
     
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  4. Tarkan

    Tarkan Peon

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    #4
    Here's another spammer: http://drupal.org/project/egglue_captcha

    They spam that link as well.

    Proof? Just disable your captcha for a while, if your site is well-connected with google, eventually you'll get attacked, and you'll see the URL they keep inserting. I can't show you because I just deleted thousands of comments.

    Here's an example of egglue captcha spam and a bunch of other nonsense spam. I'll keep it on for a while just so you can see.
    http://www.infernodevelopment.com/simple-c-pointers-and-references#comment-348

    Just experiment with taking your captcha off. I'm sure someone will come on and vouch for my story with a similar experience. I doubt there is one bot spamming only one site and trying to frame innocent recaptcha.

    I don't have to prove this, I have no reason to make this up, and nothing to gain from making it up either. I'm sure someone will show up who has had similar spam.

    Of course it is possible that they are spamming and trying to frame recaptcha, but why bother spamming if you're not going to link to anything except some other site you don't own?
     
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  5. ~kev~

    ~kev~ Well-Known Member

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    Maybe its an attempt by the spammers to get recaptacha a google penalty? That way the site will drop out of the search results and nobody will be able to find it.
     
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  6. AfterHim.com

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    #6
    I get about 10 spam comments a day on my sites all linking to Google. According to your logic Google is spamming me...
     
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  7. Tarkan

    Tarkan Peon

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    Maybe... They also leave comments that link to:
    www.v/
    www.z/
    www.l/

    I guess they have mental problems and just want to spam, for the sake of spamming, and the absolute FUN of watching a bot spam sites with urls that lead to nowhere.

    OR... They insert valid urls or invalid urls at certain times to throw you off and trick search engines into thinking that these 50 comments on this page do not all link to the same site, therefore, the search engine should accept them as valid comments rather than a link-farm/50-comments-of-spam.

    And like I said, perhaps I am being too harsh, and perhaps they are trying to sabotage recaptcha... But it seems like a lot of effort to get recaptcha a PR8, and then try their best to get them banned from google.

    There must be a more logical explanation, perhaps one we don't see yet.
     
    Tarkan, Jul 27, 2009 IP
  8. theapparatus

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    #8
    Without going into details, that's the default for one of the autocommenting programs. It's showing the person who's running it didn't set it up correctly.
     
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  9. Tarkan

    Tarkan Peon

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    See now theres a logical explanation. Someone is selling scripts, with default values that these idiots never change (unbelievable how stupid these guys are).

    For those losers that actually buy spam bots and spamming programs, guess what? They don't work, the comments get deleted before Google indexes it anyway (and Google does detect spam and discount it).
     
    Tarkan, Jul 28, 2009 IP
  10. theapparatus

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    #10
    You see it a lot in spam email as well. Lots of %FAKENAME%, %YOURURL% and the like. People don't read or it's a test run to see if the product actually works.
     
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  11. DoDo Me

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    I don't believe this. I have many blogs without any capcha, and I never got spam from them.
     
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  12. gordon08

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    #12
    There is no reason for reCaptcha to spam you. They fight spam, not promote it.
     
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  13. Abhik

    Abhik ..:: The ONE ::..

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    #13
    well, it's your opinion only.
    But, I found reCaptcha really helpful.
     
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  14. NewTVLinks.com

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    #14
    I do alot of autopligg stuff with my websites once in a while hehe.

    Other than that, shouldnt be punished on google.
     
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  15. Dollar

    Dollar Active Member

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    #15
    I find obsuficating the form in javascript with javascript escape better then any captcha. Remove the form altogether so the bot can't parse it. But to the users browser it renders fine. For the bot it cannot see it since its just using regexes looking for the <form> tags which will not exist hidden in the javascript document.write with the escape function.
     
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  16. Guthix121

    Guthix121 Well-Known Member

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    #16
    How about people with JS turned off?
     
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  17. Tarkan

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    #17
    Thats a cool idea dollar, although it would hurt people who have JS off.

    I'm sure recaptcha is not responsible, but it made no sense for them to include their url, which only helps recaptcha. And then that other captcha's link as well. Like as if, they themselves are doing it to prove to you that you need recaptcha because otherwise you'll get spammed lol.

    you gotta wonder though, if its possible.
     
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  18. Guthix121

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    #18
    I think spammers are trying to soil reCaptcha's reputation with this, and it seems to be working.
     
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  19. Tarkan

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    I find it odd, that someone hasn't developed a program to defeat recaptcha yet, it's been on for so long.
     
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  20. Dollar

    Dollar Active Member

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    <noscript>sorry You need Javascript to see the comment Form!</noscript>



    Probably becuase recaptcha's images are so hard to read in the first place. I usually get them wrong with probably a 1 in 3 chance. Once on a site I got it wrong 10 times in row and got so pissed I left the site.
     
    Dollar, Jul 29, 2009 IP