Real or Just More Misleading Propaganda?

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  1. Jim Guinn

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    #41
    And, people started a coversation, but you seem to only want to prove your myopic point which is not the overall theme of this thread.

    Jim
     
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    #42
    Ah, most Americans will use that $600 plus more debt on their credit card towards something else they can't afford, and just dig themselves a deeper hole. :p
     
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  3. Jim Guinn

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    #43

    But, once again, that is not the topic of this thread, so why do you want to keep talking about the Florida election? You are lost in the overall theme of this thread.

    Start a "Florida election, Jews afriad of the word facism thread" if that is what you want to discuss.

    Jim
     
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    pizzaman Active Member

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    #44
    i thought that was the idea.:D the question you asked was is it propaganda and that is what i am discussing here
    now do you accept that the world islamo fascist is a propaganda aimed at the jewish retirees of Florida so they vote against their economic interest or you need more detailed analysis
     
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  5. Jim Guinn

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    #45

    No to your statement and all parts of your question.

    BTW...how does the word facism and how it may lead to the outcome of the Florida election as you believe, lead to the destruction of the US....the overall theme of this thread.

    Jim
     
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    pizzaman Active Member

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    #46
    i will get to the rest of your movie this just came up first.
    now can you tell me why you think my statement can not be correct?
    would you tell me then how do you describe this word?
    no rush as i will be back in a few hours
     
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    gworld Prominent Member

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    #47
    That is the reason I said, don't give them the $600, give them a vacation package to Mexico. ;)

    On a serious note these so called "patriots" who make such movies are much more dangerous than terrorists and they will only accelerate the moral and financial decline of USA. Just look at the home land security department with the all the costs associated with. Did it help? I don't think so since I have never seen Americans so scared as now. I think they should change the name of it to "we are scared shit less" department. :D
     
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    #48
    I trust Mussolini's definition of Fascism over yours.

    I watched as much as I could stomach. It's bad videos like that, with strange and inconsistent conclusions, that make the Patriot movement look silly and weird.

    No, they get us to do that.

    I'm not sure why any of us have bothered to keep replying to you. You seem uninformed on your own topics, and you keep demanding that the topic stay narrow.
     
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    #49
    America is a nation of immigrants. If people really want to come here they will come here. I for one didn't want to live here so I moved to Mexico. The sword cuts both ways.

    But I have good news for you. About 99% of Mexicans who immigrate to USA like their home country better, and most dream about the day that they can go back. So I wouldn't worry too much about it.
     
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  10. Jim Guinn

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    #50

    First of all, it is not "my" movie. Someone emailed me the site, and I thought it might make for some interesting discussion.

    Which statement? You have made a lot of them.

    I already told you how I would describe that word.

    Jim
     
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    #51
    I don't think I can agree that these "so called patriots" are more dangerous than terrorists. They will not accelerate the moral and financial decline of the USA. The government AND its people already have that area well covered. I also think America is not scared because of the Home Land Security Dept. America is scared because we no longer have any balls to do something fully and the right way. As a nation, we talk a good fight, but when the going gets tough, most Americans want to bail and start pointing fingers.
     
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    #52
    Guerilla,

    I am far from uniformed. In fact, I can debate both sides of the argument. I used to love debating in High School and College, especially taking on the role of Devil's Advocate.

    I haven't "demanded" that the topic stay narrow, just that we stay on topic. You and at least one other poster have brought in things that have nothing to do with the original topic. This is usually done by those who can not debate effectively, have no substanative information to add to the debate, only unsubstantiated opinion, or are trying to derail a debate.

    As far as making a statement about not knowing why you bother to keep replying to me, that does not take a genius. You are being dismissive because your answers cannot be substatiated and I won't accept them and keep challenging them, so you say I am uniformed and demanding. It's a ploy. You can't win, as you want to, so you write me off so you don't lose face....another tactic of a poor debater.
     
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    #53
    This is ridiculous. First, neither is fascist, fascism being a poliical-economic system that utterly subordinates the individual to the needs of the state.

    Ignoring the misuse of the word, let us take the "worst" of each, fundamentalist, absolutist/revanchist Israelis and Islamic terrorist/fundamentalists.

    The most fundamentalist Israelis, anti-Palestinian in outlook, want one thing - the piece of land called Israel, Palestinian needs be damned. They do not seek to convert the world to judaism and mosaic law (in all matters - religious and profane, civil governance).

    The most strident Islamic fundamentalists seek the world. They seek to end all society based on secular law, and wish to impose wahabist Islam on societies under a new caliphate.

    No matter how one feels about either, to say they are the same is ridiculous, it seems to me.
     
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    #54
    Is a great made up word isn't it? Just in case you were not scared enough of the Islam terrorists, let's make it even more scary and through facism into it. Now you should be really scared.
     
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    #55
    I think this has to do with the whole Israel/Iran, Ahmadinejad thing.

    The elements of extreme nationalism and racial superiority belong to Israel not Islamic whatchamacallit.

    How about you take on the role of "Spelling Bee Champion". It's uninformed. Not uniformed.

    I think my record on conspiracy, religion and foreign policy in this forum speaks (for better or worse) for itself.

    I haven't seen you assert anything substantial, except promote that really bad website. And I loooooove a good debate, believe me I look for them.

    What answers cannot be substantiated? What is there to win?

    I'm assuming you think that Islamo-fascists are going to set off nukes in American cities.

    Welcome to George Bush Iraq speak, circa 2002.

    Since the fall of the USSR, nearly 100 suitcase sized nukes have been missing. We don't need Saddam or Iran to build refineries for uranium. Any terrorist group with sufficient funding could likely purchase a nuke anytime they want.
     
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    #56
    I bet the OP looks under his bed every night for al-CIAda! :D :D :D
     
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    #57
    I'll let your "Speling Bea Champeon" comment go; is is just childish.

    While I seldom post in this forum, I do read it a lot, and have read a lot of your posts. I am not impressed with your "record".

    That's part of the problem. You think I am "promoting" that website. It looks as if you "read", but don't "comprehend" to well. Maybe you should go back to the beginning of this thread and really try to pay attention this time.

    I don't assume anything. BTW...that movie dealt with various topics. Radical Islam was just one topic. Unfortunately, the author used Islamo-Facist (Fascism), which I already said I thought was not the best term to use, but you can't seem to get past that word or yourself!
     
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    Yeah, browntwn was deputized by the Jews and Shawn to control DP. Get in line boys, there is a new sheriff in town. I think I will leave guerilla alone because he makes enough of an ass of himself that he is no threat to anyone - I will see if that is okay with my handlers.
     
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