RE: Santrex hosting beware........

Discussion in 'General Chat' started by crankymcgrinch, Dec 13, 2009.

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    Just a quick response to postings like the one found here:

    didital point forums showthread.php?t=1597008


    Hello All,
    I just couldn't help but put in my 2 cents on Santrex Hosting. I found there customer service and staff to be very helpful and considerate especially dealing with a total Newb. For example here is a snippet of our first conversation:

    (15:56:55) Ommitted ICQ: Hello I would Like to purchase a Dedicated server and would like to know if anyone is available to assist me.
    (15:57:41) 177278850: Sure, ask.
    (15:58:02) Ommitted ICQ: Great!
    (15:58:43) Ommitted ICQ: I am looking at the Unmetered Premium Dedicated - France $99 plan but with the holidays I don"t have the setup fee
    (15:58:57) Ommitted ICQ: can you point to something comparable?
    (15:59:57) Ommitted ICQ: I am an adult webmaster who made the mistake of choosing Godaddy and I want to leave as soon as I can
    (16:00:31) 177278850: Maybe our Germany would do
    (16:01:23) Ommitted ICQ: Looking it over now....
    (16:01:55) 177278850: okay
    (16:02:22) Ommitted ICQ: BTW thank you for taking the time to walk me through this
    (16:04:10) 177278850: Just ask, and I'll help : )
    (16:05:19) Ommitted ICQ: I do like it, now I have nix box experience but besides hosting a small site at home a Server is new to me, I already have my domains so what do I need to do for the NS1-NS2 sections?
    (16:06:04) 177278850: Rgister them at your domain to use your dedicated server IP addresses
    (16:06:09) 177278850: then setup named/bind in your server
    (16:08:06) Ommitted ICQ: So I can do that after the fact? Any distro recommendations for a newbie? Oh and is it already VNC ready with a KDE/Gnome gui?
    (16:08:25) Ommitted ICQ: or would I need to do that later?
    (16:13:11) 177278850: Debian would be okay
    (16:13:19) 177278850: VNC is after yu get your server
    (16:14:33) Ommitted ICQ: Okay, sorry like I said I am new to "server shopping"
    (16:17:48) Ommitted ICQ: I am placing the order now..... So for the Hostname and ns1 do I put my domain name?
    (16:17:58) 177278850: yup
    (16:20:40) Ommitted ICQ: LOL any promotional codes I should know about? * JOKINGLY *
    (16:21:18) 177278850: lol, nope
    (16:21:32) Ommitted ICQ: never hurts to try..... LOL
    (16:22:31) 177278850: sure
    (16:24:38) Ommitted ICQ: Shame you guys don't have epassporte listed
    (16:25:41) 177278850: oh, we want to add that with kashu
    (16:26:46) Ommitted ICQ: cool, my CC deducts directly from my epassporte account so it is the same to me either way....
    (16:29:07) 177278850: alright
    (16:31:16) Ommitted ICQ: okay my order was just placed, thank you for putting up with me....
    (16:31:31) 177278850: My pleasure
    (16:39:14) Ommitted ICQ: uh oh I think I messed up on the Hostname
    (16:40:54) 177278850: During the sign up?
    (16:40:55) 177278850: It's ok
    (16:41:36) Ommitted ICQ: oh okay
    (16:42:40) Ommitted ICQ: thanx again.... sorry but I am excited to finally be away from "hosted" and have my own server, what is the app eta on being able to "move in" lol?
    (16:42:55) 177278850: What did you order?
    (16:42:56) 177278850: Germany?

    They were even curteous fter I left them on hold for an extended period and forgot to let them know I needed to step away.......

    (17:08:45) Ommitted ICQ: yes, sorry my son needed me.....
    (17:08:54) 177278850: fine :)
    (17:09:00) 177278850: I can get this done for you tongiht
    (17:09:01) 177278850: or tomorw
    (17:09:11) Ommitted ICQ: great!
    (17:09:34) Ommitted ICQ: I think I am going to be very happy with you guys
    (17:13:44) 177278850: I hope so : )
    (17:20:35) Ommitted ICQ: well so far so good


    Then The following night, I had to be getting a little annoying by then but extremely fast curteous responses:

    Conversation with Santex Hosting on 12/3/2009 11:47:32 PM:
    (23:49:49) Ommitted ICQ: Hello, sorry to bother you again but I am really excited. You had said you should have my new dedicated server up today, (regards to order #6110970634) I was just wondering if there is an updated ETA. I don't want to seem pushy so far I am very pleased with your service.
    (23:50:27) Santex Hosting: It will be delivered in the evening GMT time :)
    (23:50:31) Santex Hosting: sorry for the misleading info
    (23:52:28) Ommitted ICQ: oh okay, sorry I forgot to take time zones into account. LOL please don't hold it against me. I have read some unfavorable reviews about your company but so far they seem to be utter rubbish.
    (23:53:13) Santex Hosting: Oh, I know we have alot ; )
    (23:53:20) Santex Hosting: But I promise you we won't let you down
    (23:53:28) Santex Hosting: Messageme tomorow evening GMT time
    (23:53:34) Santex Hosting: I'll have it ready

    Even remembered who I was! If he was a bartender most of us would leave an extra tip just for that!

    (23:53:53) Santex Hosting: It's the small server right?
    (23:53:56) Santex Hosting: Germany that is...
    (23:54:30) Ommitted ICQ: great, it is 11:52 pm here what time is it there just so I have it straight...... and yep that is it, excellent memory
    (23:54:45) Santex Hosting: It's 12:54 AM now
    (23:54:46) Santex Hosting: Canada time
    (23:54:54) Santex Hosting: So let's say in the afternoon my time
    (23:55:39) Ommitted ICQ: sounds good we are only an hour apart.... I will contact you around 2 or 3 your time...... is that good?
    (23:55:48) Santex Hosting: Surely is
    (23:56:10) Ommitted ICQ: thanx sorry to bother you so late.....
    (23:56:17) Santex Hosting: It's okay anytime
    (23:56:18) Ommitted ICQ: talk to you then
    (23:56:27) Santex Hosting: nighty night




    And then I must have been really a pain in the butt but still as nice as ever.......


    Conversation with Santex Hosting on 12/4/2009 2:14:08 PM:
    (14:14:34) Ommitted ICQ: good afternoon how are you today?
    (14:16:00) Santex Hosting: Hiya, I'm fine you?
    (14:17:46) Ommitted ICQ: Good, been watching the clock like a kid at Christmas lol hope I am not getting annoying....
    (14:18:13) Santex Hosting: What's your full name again?
    (14:19:25) Ommitted ICQ: ommitted
    (14:26:46) Santex Hosting: ok found your order
    (14:26:46) Santex Hosting: second
    (14:27:23) Ommitted ICQ: Take your time, I just appreciate all you are doing for me.....
    (14:38:09) Santex Hosting: Okay it's installing now
    (14:38:54) Ommitted ICQ: You are the MAN! well assuming you are a guy, you never know over ICQ lol
    (14:40:45) Santex Hosting: : )
    (15:51:44) Ommitted ICQ: I know you have to be tired of hearing from me but, any word yet? lol you can tell me to shut up any time here...... ;-)
    (15:52:16) Santex Hosting: I just faced a small problem with the auto intall of debian, so I requested the techs help
    (15:52:18) Santex Hosting: shouldnt take long
    (15:53:32) Ommitted ICQ: okay, thanx
    (16:01:55) Santex Hosting: ok being delivered now
    (16:01:57) Santex Hosting: check email in 5 mins
    (16:03:42) Ommitted ICQ: okay, I would say I am waiting patiently but you and I both know I would be lying, I can't thank you enough.... Do you mind if I post some of these logs to show the service I received?
    (16:03:59) Santex Hosting: ofcourse
    (16:04:09) Santex Hosting: it would be nice we get someone to finally appreciate it :p
    (16:04:15) Santex Hosting: People tend to say how bad we are
    (16:04:20) Santex Hosting: but they forget to thank us when we're good : (
    (16:04:23) Santex Hosting: Check your email
    (16:05:15) Ommitted ICQ: It just came in, and I am not one to forget a good deed, on the other hand I am not afraid to voice a problem as soon as I have one......
    (16:05:42) Ommitted ICQ: here in a little while I will do a google of some of the boards and post for you guys
    (16:07:02) Santex Hosting: That's really nice of you.
    (16:07:06) Santex Hosting: Did you receive the server yet?

    They were even willing to go so far as google instructions for me which is way beyond the call of duty! which insured I would not forget to thank them with a little positive review!

    (16:07:20) Ommitted ICQ: the debian distro you installed does it have kde/gnome? Yes the email just came in
    (16:12:58) Santex Hosting: I don't think so, you need to install those
    (16:13:00) Santex Hosting: want some guide?
    (16:14:08) Ommitted ICQ: That would be great... I have found a few guides on google but each one was different, I am planning on useing VNC with KDE since I am not very skilled with nix command lines
    (16:14:26) Santex Hosting: yeah I was going to google myself, you will find alot of different ones
    (16:15:24) Ommitted ICQ: I am going to give it a shot here and try to get it running... LOL wish me luck.....
    (16:16:46) Santex Hosting: good luck ; )
    (16:16:58) Ommitted ICQ: thanx
    (16:17:00) Ommitted ICQ: ttyl
    (16:18:25) Santex Hosting: : )

    But since a lot of folks seem to have an issue with their support I would like to throw in a quick sample of that to, I used Webmin to manage the server for the most part as I am a newbie and figured with a standardized mamagement tool how can I go wrong? Well I did, Webmin recommended a upgrade from inetd to Extended Internet Services xinetd which I did, everything ran fine at first but a little while later (a few hours) I could no longer access my server. i submitted a ticket and within minutes i had a response....


    Omitted Name
    Client 13/12/2009 13:22
    My Server seems to be down and I am unable to ping it. Are there any outages?

    ----------------------------
    IP Address: om.it.te.d
    Lars Joergensen
    Staff 13/12/2009 13:25




    Dear Omitted,

    Your server is now rebooting.

    Lars Joergensen
    Level 3 customer support
    Santrex Internet Services LTD
    hxxp: www santrex net
    You rated this response

    So all in all since you are getting an unmanaged server any additional help offered is solely their discretion.... But as my grandmother used to say "you catch more flies with honey" I personally HIGHLY recommend them. Even if the staff is as small as some people claim then their service is just that much BETTER to be so prompt and curteous while dealing with so many clients, all in all just keep in mind what you are paying for, basically a new computer that is yours to deal with. Any else you get is soley at their discretion, and at their low prices you should be thakful for any customer service.
     
    crankymcgrinch, Dec 13, 2009 IP
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    br3adman Active Member

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    wow this took a long time to read,is your server working currently?
     
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    crankymcgrinch Peon

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    Sorry it was so long winded but i wanted to make a point that sometimes people forget the good they get...... and at the moment they are working with me over ICQ I am in recovery mode and they are walking me through it...... once again something they don't have to do on an unmanaged system, Webmin's xinetd install overwrote all tthe inetd config it seems so i am trying to rebuild it without data loss...... fortunayly they are very patien with my stupid newbie questions LOL
     
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    5ive Well-Known Member

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    You just registered here and this "happened" to be your first post? You dont "happen" to work at that company or they didnt "happen" to hire you? You write a 100 A4 pages just to explain how good they are, you did ALL this "just" to say how good your "new" host was? Well believe me, no matter what you say or do here at DP, no one will believe you if your first post is to ADVERTISE a company.. If a reputable member (even not me) does what you did the MAYBE.. This just looks like a bad way to cover up all the bad critics they have on this forum and all over the web.. But I hope your hosting goes well..
     
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    crankymcgrinch Peon

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    well i registered quite sometime ago, and i didn't post any affiliate links....... notice the join date was sept at the top left, and I have as shameful as this is 1 other post which WAS advertising, where i put my affiliate link. this is just a give credit where credit is due. this was the best way i could think of to say thank you to them, especially after the poor service i received from my previous host. they have been working all day to help me when they don't have to. So take it or leave it, I don't make any money off this I just don't want to see some get an entirely bad wrap when they have solid good points that I have seen for myself.
     
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    5ive Well-Known Member

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    well I want to believe you but it doesnt look good, if you now really did what you say you did, it doesnt look good.. Not here in Dp or in any webmaster forum where spamming is common and fake advertisements are popping up every day.
     
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    crankymcgrinch Peon

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    I understand, that is why i posted logs i am not looking to argue or post it as an advert, and i completely see your point. the thing is people are so quick to post how horrible something is that when they see a good post they assume it is crap, i am a newbie to linux and my only other real experience was Godaddy shared hosting then to their grid hosting and got nothing but hassle. They were helpful. What would you recommend for a thnk you? A greeting card? if you did right by someone wouldn't it make you feel better to know someone talked about it instead of just that one time you got drunk and....... (not saying that happened just making a point) so i figured this was better than a hallmark lol
     
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    5ive Well-Known Member

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    I know that almost no one posts any good things that happens to them, for some reason we (me to) only tell about our bad experiences.. Well im glad your happy
     
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    thanx, now that i do have my own server i will probably be asking a lot of dumb questions here, i already killed the server once LOL don't want to do it again
     
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