How often are you supposed to send those in for a website? Every time you make another change you think might affect it? Since you're got no idea if your request is ignored or not, or how long it actually takes before someone reads your request, it's a bit hard to know. In the meantime you just sit there week after week with a dead website.
Yeah I kinda have my doubts about anyone actually reading those requests except on the rare occation when someone has personal contact with someone at google.
Bit hard when you don't know what you've done wrong and are just guessing based on what others say that they may have been penalised for That's why I kinda wondered how long it would be before you know that your request has been ignored and it's time to guess again and send a new request.
But don`t you suspect anything, did you read the webmasters guide lines? Its just hard to think that you don`t have a clue at all of whats going on. Do you have to many outgoing unrelated links ?
That's the only thing I see as possible reasons. Both sites in question had a couple of unrelated outgoing links. Nothing compared to what thousands of other sites have, but it's the only reason I could find.
This is not 100% true I have a site that is gone and its 100% clean and white hat, it disappeared for no reason what so ever, sent a re-inclusion and still nothing....
Which site, if I may ask? And what keywords? If you're not actually banned I'm not to sure how much a reinclusion will help (well, not sure how much it would help if you were banned either, actually, hasn't helped me much. ). But some penalties are recoverable/testable without the reinclusion. -Michael
Sending you a PM And yeah reinclusion is supposed to work for penalties too, at least Matt Cutts said so.
Yes, it is in certain cases, but you are not penalized. I replied to your PM. I only looked at the first site I looked at, a) I found a phrase that you were ranking in the top 100 for, first try, and b) could easily see what the problem might be. You have over 1200 pages indexed in Google, but pretty much all but around 150 of them (estimating, I didn't count exactly, but from halfway through page 2 @ 100 per page, onwards) are in the supplemental index. None of these pages will show up for searches, period. This is usually due to linking structure and lack of deeper inbound links. For the non-supp pages, I saw that the vast majority had 2 different titles repeated over and over. This means that basic seo was not done on the bulk of the pages that have any chance of ranking. If you fix those items, and then aren't ranking, I would start looking into the possibility of a penalty. I'm pretty sure you would be fine though. Peace. -Michael
Yes I am penalized. I replied to your PM again with the reasons for those things. If you drop from having a steady #1 or #2 for all searches on something for the past 7 years, and suddenly end up on pages 4-5 or further back for all searches including your own domain name, you are penalized
It's def possible, but what I am saying is that with all those pages in supp (over 80% of the second site, everything but the first 39 pages) it's going to be damn near impossible to tell. As to the second indicator you gave me, mind testing something? Any way you could get 5 or 6 people to link to you from 7 or 8 decent PR4/PR5 pages, using just your url as the anchor text? I am assuming most of your links are keyword optimized, right? -Michael
Not sure which site you refer to as the second site. And the mainpage is not in the supp index, and for the music related site it was always the mainpage that ranked. Site is horribly old, other pages are not optimized. Google didn't exist when the site was launched. Also, a site always ranks for it's own domain name unless something is very wrong. No way I can get that I think. What is it you would be testing? And yeah all links that I've planned are keyword optimized for various phrases pointing to various sections of the site.