RAW CPM popunder programs that pay higher then Adversal?

Discussion in 'Affiliate Programs' started by checksum, Sep 3, 2006.

  1. #1
    Are there any that are paying higher then adversal for popunders atm?

    Adversal pays $1.20 for raw popunders from the US and $0.50 for internationals for reference.
     
    checksum, Sep 3, 2006 IP
  2. Ferrarislave

    Ferrarislave Peon

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    I was wondering this too....
     
    Ferrarislave, Sep 4, 2006 IP
  3. A.G

    A.G Well-Known Member

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    anybody know ??
     
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    jimkarter Notable Member

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    I don't think many popup advertising networks pays on raw. most pay good CPM but on unique basis.
     
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  5. slava

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    PayPopUp claims to count RAW impressiosn but they are not accurate in doing so.
     
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    jimkarter Notable Member

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    paypopup counts not more than 20% of my traffic. :mad:
     
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  7. checksum

    checksum Notable Member

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    It looks like Adversal is the winner then. :p
     
    checksum, Sep 5, 2006 IP
  8. A.G

    A.G Well-Known Member

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    #8
    I noticed that PayPopUp some times count raw impressions and some other not count

    maybe only the first 2-3 impression per same IP
     
    A.G, Sep 5, 2006 IP
  9. jimkarter

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    Yes, may be. But they has to go long way yet to establish themselves as reputed popup provider.
     
    jimkarter, Sep 6, 2006 IP
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    wormy Active Member

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    Is it legal to rotate popup companies on your site? Or would it violate the TOS of the popunder companies? Cuz this way if you don't have that many uniques but they click a lot you could serve lots of different companies to the visitors.
     
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  11. slava

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    as long as you do not have an exclusive agreement with an ad network you can rotate ads, including popups.

    Theres exception if TOS specifically prohibits serving popups on pages where other popups are served, but if you only have one per page you should be fine.
     
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    Tomcat7194 Peon

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    #12
    When we at The Great Traffic Experiment looked into Paypopup, we found that they under report by about 50%--if you look at uniques. For raw traffic, their numbers are much worse.

    So no, if you are actually getting $1.20 for raws from Adversial, Paypopup probably can't beat them, unless your traffic is primarily international (PPU has pretty decent international rates).

    Tom

    ps. Our full review of Paypopup is located here http://www.thegreattrafficexperiment.com/PayPopUp/paypopupexperiment.html if you're interested
     
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    Adversal is the best for raw....
     
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  14. jimkarter

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    Yes. that is what I say. But recently somebody posted here on DP that his account is closed for some reason. So I am waiting for my first payment then I can say for sure.:)
     
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    #15
    paypopup counts all the impressions where an ad is actually popped. if there is no inventory, then you didn't serve an impression. it's called low inventory. guys get your facts straight before you trash talk a company. paypopup sucks imo because their ads have sound and other crap, but still come on...
     
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  16. wormy

    wormy Active Member

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    From Paypopup's FAQ:

    :: Payment ::
    Q. How much do I get paid?
    A. Standard PayPopup.com payment rate is up to USD$1.80 per 1,000 RAW impressions. Actual campaign rates vary with website performance and market conditions.
    Paypopup.com Current payment Structure:

    Thats compared to Adversal's $1.20 CPM RAW for popunders. So it seems to pay more? Assuming there is inventory :rolleyes:

    Now their CPM for China is $0.25 CPM compared to Adversal's international $0.50 CPM


    They do say RAW impressions not UNIQUES. I wonder how many popups they give to each visitor and how often?
     
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    wormy Active Member

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    Also in case they run out:

    Q. What is default/unsold?
    A. Paypopup may not be able to fill 100% of paying ads. Paypopup provides free default management services to publishers. Default is used in the event that there are no paid ads avaiable at the particular time to serve to publisher's site. And this will count as unsold.



    So..if a person learns to use a rotator they can throw some other popunder at the client....:D
     
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  18. jimkarter

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    Ok, may be paypopup is paying raw, but the simple fact is I was making less than $10 from one site of mine per day but with adversal, I am making around $25/day. So thats why I opted for adversal, but I yet have to receive my first payment on 15th of this month.
     
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  19. MKInfo

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    I just started using PPU yesterday.I'll give them a month and see how it goes.

    Theres rates for me are 1.80 for US and UK the going down a sliding scale for other countries.
     
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    That $1.80 is a bit more than the adversal $1.20. Do you think it monetizes as well as adversal though? I wonder if there is any way for us webmasters to track how many of these clicks are actually going through. Sort of an urchin system that sniffs popups and popunders? :cool:
     
    wormy, Sep 8, 2006 IP