Ranking Top 10 In 3 days In mortgage niche.

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  1. AZB

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    #21
    You can target multiple keywords/phrases for the same URL for example

    http://forums.digitalpoint.com?=cool-forums
    http://forums.digitalpoint.com?=another-keyword-phrase

    And make the anchor text Cool Forums and Another Keyword Phrase

    If you check that link structure it will still resolve at the forums homepage and google will even index that entire link as is if you get enough backlinks.

    I hope that makes sense I can try and elaborate more.

    azb
     
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    #22
    Check my post above and see if that answers your question.. If it does not I can try and explain.
     
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    #23
    Can you give an example of a "crappy" link? I would figure any backlink on any reputable wh site would not be considered crappy in any way.

    For the record we are not talking about spammy methods like link farms or spamming like Xrumer... This is a legitimate link exchange between legitimate websites owners. And links only show up on webpages with their owners consent.

    The only part that could be considered crappy is you cannot target relevant niches to place your links on... They appear on a mix of forums, websites, blogs and other legitimate websites.

    azb
     
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    #24
    I think I elaborated on the method and how it works.

    As far as doing this to competitors it likely won't work especially if the competitors history does not indicate that they have built a lot of links in a short period of time. So yes there is a -30 and other filters applied depending on how artificial the tactic employed.

    One thing most people seem to forget is google hires the brightest minds to thwart people who like to take short cuts.

    As a database and data driven website, Google has a history of sites and servers, and those that play by the rules typically will fare well in their index.

    Those that try to take short cuts and employ tactics of using artificial methods, are usually left wondering what went wrong.

    Evidence of this can be seen by all the posts here under the Google category asking why their sites dropped off the map.

    ;)
     
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  5. AZB

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    #25
    If the method looks natural then how would even the brightest mind spot it in billions of indexes..(And getting tons of backlinks quickly can look natural spread out across enough servers websites and ips..)

    And how do you determine if a websites rate of backlinks is unusual? What happens if a noname site gets linked on the top of all the social media sites? (Assuming they had a hosting plan to handle it) Would it getting 10k backlinks in a couple days hurt it?

    There is just to many factors for them to hand out penaltys based on anything to do with backlinks. The people that drop of the map were likley using bh methods of some sort or they just got sandboxed because they have no promotion.

    Im not saying it was easy to rank in days in a competitive niche.. Im just saying its possible and its ludicrous to think google will punish me being to good at networking my site.

    And the part about google being genius so they will figure it out?? How come half their search engine is filled with spam? Google is God but they aren't perfect...

    azb
     
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    #26
    News will and should make it to the top. So when a cure for a certain cancer is found then that site would rise naturally.

    Since there is really nothing new about mortgage loans it likely should not be at the top and will lose its rankings in time......See posts here reference "What happened?" if you still cannot understand the concept.

    They use

    1. A database to store data

    2. Historical data

    3. Empirical data

    Seeing as you do not know these things exist and are put to use as a friendly suggestion I would recommend rethinking your tactics.

    1. There is one penalty it is a ban.

    2 Everything else is a filter that is applied.

    3. There is no such thing as sandboxing. It is an aging delay to allow Google to build trust with your website or blog.

    Every business takes time to build, this is fact as can be seen in the history of almost every brick and mortar business. Being online does not entitle any business to instant success. There are exceptions but they are few and far between.

    See all threads labeled "What happened" you will likely be among them, but now that I have told you what to expect you may not need to..

    The SERPs contain some spam because the algorithm is not perfect, lack of competition for some of the terms involved allow some marketers to push edges lets say.

    I didnt say they were god allah ra jesus beezlebug satan or any other deity, nor did I infer they were perfect ( Im actually one of those who speak out against their propaganda but that's for a different thread),

    I simply stated they are much smarter than you give them credit for.

    :)
     
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    #27
    Ok I will keep a eye on the mortgage site and update...

    I have over 10 reviews of my services in the process... I will report back with results and before and after pictures shortly.

    No person in my link exchange has reported any problems and everyone is reporting incredible results similar to mine.

    Thanks for the responses they have been informative.

    azb
     
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    #28
    Thanks for the replys

    And I am aware of how smart google is but there is only so much you can do when dealing with so much information.

    So many factors to consider that myth after myth gets perpetuated like crazy when It is probably some different factor the people aren't seeing

    You are obviously more experienced then me in this field and I appreciate any and all responses.

    cheers
    azb
     
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    #30
    Thanks for the link but I would say the setup I am using wouldn't fit Into this category. It is done very natural... I cannot target relevant niches for the links to be shown so that is one point against me but I think It just means the links will be worth less and I think I make that up with quantity.
     
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    #31
    Heres is a before and after pic from another client.. This was in under 24 hours of promoting his site.

    http://img515.imageshack.us/i/beforeandafter1day.jpg/

    Was it from my promo? who knows but if the rankings continue to rise we will know.

    I knew google was fast but this is backing up the miracle stories I have been hearing from people in private circles.
     
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    #32
    Good that you have that results...
    That's a good achievement to have..
    Id better try it on mine also.. I might get good results also,
     
    Georginia, Sep 27, 2009 IP