Today: Google 21 MSN n/a Yahoo n/a The change is a big jump on google and a drop out of top 200 on yahoo. Of course it's early days at this stage.
what are u guys using to check the links i use http://www.checkyourlinkpopularity.com/ and this is what is shows google 11 yahoo 31,400 msn 13,241 alltheweb 29,600 altavista 31,600 Total 106,441
google 11 yahoo 29800 MSN 14574 Alltheweb 37200 Altavista 36900 Teoma 381 AOL 10 Alexa 13 http://www.uptimebot.com - you can exchange links with this site PR4 at the "Our friends" pages.
How about we don't post the number of backlinks (if you care about them, you can track them on your end)? Going to turn into a very boring thread then. Maybe someone can just post a chart that shows the changes once a month or something.
How about noone post the number of links, as it's completely pointless. The number of reported links beens bugger all. We are monitoring search results!
I don't have anything overly exciting to say about this, other then it's a neat idea and i'm interested in the results. (and this is an easy way to subscribe to the thread)
Elizabeth Ann just threw up on you again and you're too sleep deprived to think clearly by now, right Wendy?
good call ... we need to get a grip on the thresholds here ... ie - xx,xxx of weight worked great for 1 month then sandboxed site or xx,xxx of weight and getting great serps with no penalities.
eh ... why did we pick a site with a flash intro for a home page? we are using wwwdot-uccf.org right?
That page has virtually nothing on it for spiders... but when you think about it, maybe that makes it a better cross-SE test of what the Coop ads can and cannot do...
just so i'm clear ... sandbox = where all new sites only go? penalization = what happens to existing sites when Google removes them from high ranking serps and places them farther back? example ... i have sites that are older domains, 2 or 3 years ... but got an seo overhaul as well as link building campaign. on a few of the more aggressive plans (ie - coop) i seem to get separated from the serps for a while. it seems to come back, but takes a while. so what would you call this? i think if you take an old site, revamp it, build links fast (like coop) you will get the equivalent of being sandboxed. i'm pretty sure others have felt this as well ... have you?
Are you saying you have seen this with one of your sites, skattabrain? I haven't, or at least not yet... I've been wondering if the reason some coop members think they see "penalties" and others don't might be partly an "old versus new" thing, although I suspect that many cases have nothing to do with either penalties or the coop...
sure i have ... i have 2 examples fresh in mind. 1 in particular had a page #6 position before i took the job. as soon as i turned on coop (i was foolish and florred it) it disappeared from the first 10 pages. if use that filter trick i'm #1, tons of BL's ... #1 on yahoo and MSN ... allin____ ... all top dog. the content was good, but lacked quality titles and meta so i fixed that up as well. i'm not a keyword % counter because i don't believe in that all that much (unless it's yahoo ... but links sway yahoo easy). when you turn up the juice on coop to a site with few anchors you are pulling trip wires. coop needs like 60 anchors IMO to avoid negative attention from Google. if it has been normal behavior for your site for a while and you climbed out of the box, that's different. i believe that still has an effect ... just be careful not to adjust your coop weight to much. but to go from few links to 54,000 of weight at 10 terms ... it's risky business if you ask me. there are plenty of people that have encountered this and are sick of talking about it, but no one listens ... or they have the stance that "this isn't true because it never happened to me" ... or they manage 1 site. i think it's important that we know how much weight is being applied and to what terms. a better test would be to take 2 domains ... 2 different tests. pile the weight all at once on 1, slowly add coop weight to the other. but that's another story. and yes ... these are my findings and my opinions.