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Ranking Experiment

Discussion in 'Co-op Advertising Network' started by digitalpoint, May 6, 2005.

  1. jlawrence

    jlawrence Peon

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    #301
    Having just read through all 30 pages of this :)
    I hope that M & Y did drop the sites because of the coop links - that would be awesome.
    Imagine that I could take any of my opposition out of the serps at will simply by point 10K weight at them.
    I don't currently use coop on my sites (I'm experimenting with LV atm) but the idea that you can harm a site by pointing weight at it is crazy. As shawn said in one of his posts - being able to inflict damage on other sites is/could be worth much more financially than moving your own a couple of places up the serps.
    SEMrush
     
    jlawrence, Jun 27, 2005 IP
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  2. Infiniterb

    Infiniterb Well-Known Member

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    #302
    Yeah...real awesome....
     
    Infiniterb, Jun 27, 2005 IP
  3. T0PS3O

    T0PS3O Feel Good PLC

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    #303
    Can someone tell me what effect this experiment had on Google ranking?

    I didn't follow this closely enough...
     
    T0PS3O, Jun 27, 2005 IP
  4. Homer

    Homer Spirit Walker

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    #304
    Tops, I haven't really noticed much with Google at all, either way. A few months ago I started to slip with Google so I unleased more weight (used to bring serps back) nothing happened. A few weeks ago it became apparent that Yahoo had invoked some kind of a link threshold PENALTY, so I removed ALL COOP weight from the site.

    Results so far...

    1) Yahoo continues its out and out ban of my site that was, for years, a top 10 runner in Yahoo serps. (noteworthy- I am seeing business . com found everywhere is Yahoo serps)

    2) Google hasn't moved either way, still holding steady.

    I am also noticing that MSN is updating and I am seeing a slow decline.

    Conclusion- IMO

    Google- Currently doesn't give a shit about link churning...either way.
    Yahoo- Has declared war on suspicious link bursts
    MSN- Is somewhere in the middle
     
    Homer, Jun 27, 2005 IP
  5. Design Agent

    Design Agent Peon

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    #305
    The site went from 140ish to about 14ish in Google with 10,000 weight pointed at it. Although people are saying it has disappeared from Yahoo.
     
    Design Agent, Jun 27, 2005 IP
  6. Infiniterb

    Infiniterb Well-Known Member

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    #306
    It has disappeared in Yahoo :)
     
    Infiniterb, Jun 27, 2005 IP
  7. Design Agent

    Design Agent Peon

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    #307
    Ok, it has disappeared as has "digitalpoint" amongst others - what about msn?
     
    Design Agent, Jun 27, 2005 IP
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    #308
    i dunno homer ... give google a bit more time before you make a conclusion. i don't think any search engine owes any site anything.

    the belief that se's won't penalize you for things going down on the web outside of your site is a bit naive IMO ... this isn't a judicial system here ... this is corp america ... they do what they want and owe you nothing.
     
    skattabrain, Jun 27, 2005 IP
  9. Homer

    Homer Spirit Walker

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    #309
    Yes it seems when a site is not in the top ten it still has effect with Google. My post was was IMO and my site is and always has been it the top ten of Google's Serps. So when your site is ranked well to begin with I am noticing a lesser (if any:confused: ) effect with Google.

    As far as MSN. This was posted last by Infiniterb:
    Google: 13
    Yahoo: N/A
    MSN: 2

    Right now, I cannot find the 'charity' site in the top 100 of MSN.
     
    Homer, Jun 27, 2005 IP
  10. skattabrain

    skattabrain Peon

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    #310
    oh ... and if you think a se can't ban you for link burst and you run coop or lv "on" the site you desire ranking for ... you need a logic check.
     
    skattabrain, Jun 27, 2005 IP
  11. T0PS3O

    T0PS3O Feel Good PLC

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    #311
    Here in the UK Yahoo and MSN combined provide about 3 percent of all traffic. My sites were dropped from MSN and I didn't notice a thing in the stats.
     
    T0PS3O, Jun 27, 2005 IP
  12. gford

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    #312
    I get 2000+ search hits a month from MSN, < 200 hits a month from Yahoo and 3000+ from google. To me, MSN is very important.

    It has climbed from < 5% of the SE traffic to 30%.
     
    gford, Jun 27, 2005 IP
  13. Homer

    Homer Spirit Walker

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    #313
    Not at all any comparison to Google BUT in the last year Yahoo has grown the most for me...about 10%.
     
    Homer, Jun 28, 2005 IP
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    #314
    So has the co-op become a tool for knocking out your competitors?
     
    Web Gazelle, Jun 28, 2005 IP
  15. gford

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    #315
    Seems to be for MSN/Yahoo. The charity site has vanished and thats proof enough for me. A scary thought though..
     
    gford, Jun 28, 2005 IP
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    #316
    Maybe I will have to run an experiment of my own...:eek:
     
    Web Gazelle, Jun 28, 2005 IP
  17. Infiniterb

    Infiniterb Well-Known Member

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    #317
    Googe: 17
    MSN: 15
    Yahoo: N/A
     
    Infiniterb, Jun 28, 2005 IP
  18. Homer

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    #318
    Please forgive me if I'm wrong but I thought the site was www dot uccf dot org/ keyword 'charity'? If so I'm not seeing this in the top 100 of MSN?
     
    Homer, Jun 28, 2005 IP
  19. Infiniterb

    Infiniterb Well-Known Member

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    #319
    It's uccf.org and the keyword is charity. I just checked with the KW Tracker and did a manual check. It's there.
     
    Infiniterb, Jun 28, 2005 IP
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    #320
    Not in top 100 MSN UK :confused:
     
    Thewormman, Jun 29, 2005 IP