See no questions Infinite "on-page is almost nil with Google" - this I have to disagree 100% Onpage is Important. Who ranks number 1 for "miserable failure us" - the one with better onsite. If you want a good spread of targeted keywords then it IS important and SEs are starting to give onpage more weight. With more complex word combination analysis. So yes number 1 for charity, but better is: number 1 for charity, african charity, childrens charity, charities looking after children in Africa - that kind of thing. Utilizing onpage makes this much easier.
The digipoint tool reports: Google: 15 Yahoo: n/a MSN: n/a It's suprising that msn and yahoo don't have it in the top 200... very interesting experiment.
Interesting, since March 2004 or earlier, it's had this link in dmoz: dmoz.org/Regional/Africa/Uganda/Society_and_Culture/ which includes the word 'charity' in the anchor text.
Now why would someone negative rep me for this post? ** If you are gonna spank me baby make it public **
Who knows, Domenic? I've given up trying to understand it -- occasionally, you acn pretty much tell who did it and why, but most of the time it almost seems random.
In DP there is a 'no rhyme no reason red rep ghost' I think. I have fallen victim as well, Dominic. So don't take it personal Actually some viewing this thread may not know this. I am familiar with this trend but must say I was curious to see if the 'mood' had changed with Google towards coop links. It looks like it hasn't, so far.
You know this sort of off subject but at one point I had this dicussion with Doug Heil and Jill whalan about seo ethics etc. And they assured me that me and my methods including the coop are the scourge of the internet. while they on the other hand helped the webmasters and search engines make the internet a better place. I bet none of have ever donated anything to anyone, yet here is the scourge of the internet helping a charity site, for free.
Isn't Doug the guy who also thinks you shouldn't use any sort of online tool, ever (things like the keyword tracker, keyword suggestion tool, etc.)? Funny considering his forum is a tool to make discussion/communication easier.
Some people seem to think that if they call the most people spammers the loudest then everyone will think that they must be the people to hire. I think there also is aversion to technology to some seos. Doing everything by hand creates sooo many more billable hours.
Why on earth wouldn't you use automation to make things easier? Maybe we should all toss our computers and go back to pen and paper Shawn, close the DP forums and start handling all help requests through the USPS & phone. That should make things much more efficient
that and fear. fear of not knowing how and not knowing where to start. fear of not being able to say "i'm not #1... but that's because i'm a good clean, honest white hat" ... if they were anything else they would be forced to produce real results for real competition like everyone else. ever notice the loudest white hats tend to have .htm as the extension to every file on their site ... outside of forums and blogs.
As for the .htm thing, I learnt using dreamweaver which defaults to .htm I can experiment my way through already written code to duplicate something or fix a little mistake but don't know much else. Other than pushing the envelope generally with seo, I wouldn't know enough to black hat anyway. I think the people who so called black hat are the ones who are a lot more tec minded and can actually code in notepad and in a number of languages.
it's about about being black hat ... it's that white hats consider most every tactic black hat. i'm not really sure what they do to be honest ... once you onpage seo, what else is there for them to do? everything else is natural, right? their arguments are contradicting most times. i certainly would not consider something like coop to be black hat ... they do.
I think what skattabrain was saying is that a lot professed "White Hat" seos don't know how to write code. Or they don't come from technical type back ground. Which is fine but ... this is kind of about about a computer algorythm. Sometimes when people talk about the search engines like they living thinking organisms, it makes me picture a bunch of monkeys trying to figure out a laptop. Anyways do you think ugandian people have seen a lot more donations?