Ranked1.net SEO Firm Uses Stolen Content Removes Author Links

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  1. gworld

    gworld Prominent Member

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    #41
    How is this related to your site and what is mentioned here about you copying other web sites? :confused:
     
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  2. SEbasic

    SEbasic Peon

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    #42
    Maybe it was at wpw, but I'm sure I saw you there.. :/
     
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  3. minstrel

    minstrel Illustrious Member

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    #43
    Well, considering that none of what you claim to "know" is even close to being correct, I'd say the answer is pretty evident: You don't know anything.

    LMAO! :D Just when I was beginning to think you had no sense of humor. Why don't you ask Black Knight or John Scott what they think about that statement, Janeth?

    And getting back to Black Knight, what has any of this misinformation about me have to do with you being caught for at least the second time stealing content? It's just the usual smokescreen, isn't it JanethC?

    <edit: I see gworld beat me to it in asking this question>
     
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  4. Janeth

    Janeth Active Member

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    #44
    I had someone at my office copy content from free sites. They used Opera to find the sites and copied them into Dream Weaver and put them online.

    If you use IE or Firefox it copies the links but Opera does not.

    So when the sites where put online it gave the arthur credit but did not copy the link back to the arthurs site.

    There is only so many times I can say what happened.
     
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  5. gworld

    gworld Prominent Member

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    #45
    Some one mentioned that this has happened before also, didn't you tell your people not to use Opera after the last time? :confused:
     
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  6. Janeth

    Janeth Active Member

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    #46
    Lets see

    Did you and your wife have a divorce and you were having some type of problem with her?

    Did you have a daughter?

    Was there a lady at your work that was trying to get your fired?

    I'd say I'm pretty dame close as I never said how long you had been divorced.

    The only part I did not understand was the problem with the daughter but please don't say I'm lieing.


    I didn't ask what they thought but since your so sure why don't you show a thread where he attacked someone.


    I did not steal content. I have stated what happened but you have a hard time reading so here it is again.

    I will type slower for you.


    I had someone at my office copy content from free sites. They used Opera to find the sites and copied them into Dream Weaver and put them online.

    If you use IE or Firefox it copies the links but Opera does not.

    So when the sites where put online it gave the arthur credit but did not copy the link back to the arthurs site.

    There is only so many times I can say what happened.

    The last time was different, it was about 2 years ago and I had hired a girl from the US to right some text for me.

    She had copied bits and pieces of other people's text and I guess maybe added some of her own to make it all fit together.

    This time I got to many personal projects going on and had hired some people to search on Google for free articles and post those on the site for some text.

    Just about everyone that works for me speaks Spanish so it is a little tuff getting help on the English sites.


    I know the name gworld, where do I know you from?
     
    Janeth, Jan 25, 2006 IP
  7. Las Vegas Homes

    Las Vegas Homes Guest

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    #47
    Janeth I do not personally know you but I do know minstrel. He has contributed a great deal to this forum and is well respected. I tend to believe a lot of what he says, you on the other hand with what has been pointed out, I would say you are caught. We all make mistakes, hell as a friend of mine once said, I am a recovering spammer, I have learn from my mistakes and I am presently in a 12 step program :D . Maybe if you just admit you made a mistake people might not drag you through the weeds and be so hard on you. ;)

    Throwing all this off on your employees is lame. I have more employees than you and I am responsible for everything they do, so are you for your employees.

    We all want to get things done fast but I have personally learn that only hard work gets you what you want, try it sometimes and own up to the mistakes you make and people are more likely to forgive you.
     
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  8. Janeth

    Janeth Active Member

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    #48
    WPW I'm sure of there was a lot of fights over there.
     
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  9. minstrel

    minstrel Illustrious Member

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    #49
    No. I ended that marriage (my choice) almost 17 years ago and long before I ever heard of you so I don't know what you think you're talking about there.

    Yes. See above. And no, I was not having any trouble with her, ever - we were very close, as a matter of fact. And again, I had never heard of you in 1995.

    No. Another wild guess that missed, I'm afraid, Janeth... I can't even imagine where that one came from.

    Odd. I distinctly recall you telling Black Knight that it was a Colombian who did it and blaming it on the language issue back then too... it must be tough to keep all these fables straight in your mind, Janeth.

    So to reiterate, just so I get this straight:

    Janeth did nothing wrong? It's all her Colombian employees' fault for not speaking English and understanding that when Janeth says "Go steal some articles" she really means "Go write me some original articles that I can sign my name to"? Is that the story?
     
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  10. Janeth

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    #50

    I have said many times that we made a mistake, if it makes you feel better for me to say I made the mistake then that's fine.

    I'am responsible for everything they do but to explain what happened and tell the truth I have to include them. Or would you rather me lie about that?

    But you need to understand that this has nothing to do with any sites. This is a chance for Minstrel and that SEO whatever he is calling himself today to attack me.

    Nothing I say or do will ever stop them.

    Just take a look around the forums with Minstrel and Janeth and I'm sure that's why seo whatever posted it here.
     
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  11. gworld

    gworld Prominent Member

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    #51
    Your site is dynamic, why was the text copied to dreamweaver, isn't suppose to be in some kind of database? :confused:

    Didn't you look at your site after it was published?

    We crossed path in WPW, I didn't like you because you were censoring posts but I am trying to give you a benefit of a doubt and you are not doing a very good job on using it.
     
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  12. Janeth

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    #52
    How did I know you were divorced?

    I can't believe you would lie about all this

    Maybe you where missing her or something but I know you talked about her with me. I should have kept the emails.

    It was at the time I was putting the people together to start the forum you have now. I asked you to join, you said you did not know because you had a lot going on and was having problems with a lady from your work.

    You told them either she goes or you.

    You were thinking about going out on your own at that time.

    Does that help you remember any?

    100% wrong. You seem to have a hard time remembering anything at this time.

    But all this was done in the forums and not by email, so it should be easy to find. ;)
     
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  13. minstrel

    minstrel Illustrious Member

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    #53
    That's a good idea, Janeth. Find those old threads and post the links here. If you can't find them, perhaps I can ask Black Knight to refresh your memory. You do remember Black Knight, don't you? :rolleyes:
     
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  14. Janeth

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    #54
    The site is in php but I did not use a database. We have a lot going on and I was just trying to give the new guy something to do.

    We do around 30 sites a week, it's a little hard to look at all of them.

    You are also mistaken, I was never a good mod. nor had the confedence to censoring posts.

    I will tell you the same I told Minstrel. Show me the post.

    I don't recall ever doing it on any forum, other then a spammer or two on my own forum and then I only removed the link.

    Yep sure do, I have no problem at all with you calling on your buddy Black Knight just ask him to show us the thread.

    You like giving orders but I don't work for you.

    I know who I hired, if you say I said something different two years ago then find the old thread where I said something different.
     
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  15. PhilC

    PhilC Peon

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    #55
    I think a little recent history is in order here. Clint started a thread at WPW to ask what he should do about a scam that someone had shown him, but he wouldn't give any details. The thread has been linked to from this thread. It turned out that he wanted to be some sort of hero for exposing the scam, so he kept the details to himself. The scam had fallen into his lap, and he wanted to make gains from it. After many thread pages, I eventually learned the details and I posted them, as anyone who comes across a real scam should do. He'd emailed the details to Janeth and she passed them on to me. Clint ended up with egg on his face because he refused to expose the scam.

    That's what this is all about - sour grapes. Clint must have a sad life if he feels the need to spend all this time getting revenge, but some people really are that sad.

    Now about the topic of this thread.

    Yes, Minstrel, a couple of years ago it was pointed out at WPW that Janeth had had some content on her site that was lifted from other sites. Ammon posted that Janeth had had the content 2 years earlier. That makes it about 4 years ago. It was a mistake by an employee, and it was dealt with immediately.

    The reason that Ammon posted about it 2 years after the event is because, when he first saw it 2 years earlier, both he and Janeth were mods at WPW, and he gave WPW an ultimatum - either they have Janeth as a mod, or they have him as a mod, but they can't have both. They chose Janeth, and it hurt him. He thought he was somebody. That's the reason why he used a thread at WPW to bring up the past in a subtle attack - he used it as an example of lifting content from other sites.

    So there was some lifted content about 4 years ago, and there is some more 4 years later, both of which were put there by employees. I think it's reasonable to assume that, since Janeth has many employees, she isn't going to do the work herself. I know for a fact that most of today's employees are not the same people as the ones from 4 years ago - maybe none of them are. So it would not be surprising if today's employees made the same mistakes as earlier ones. What can't be assumed is that the employer intended the content to be lifted. When you have hundreds or thousands of websites that are maintained by employees, you can't monitor them all - you simply can't do it.

    What ought to have happened is the person who saw it should have pointed it out so that it could be dealt with. Clint didn't do that, because it isn't his agenda. The sole purpose for his original post (copied into various forums) is to get revenge by a failed attempt at embarrassing Janeth. It's made obvious by his threats to continue searching and exposing. That says a lot about him.

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    Did you out a spammer, Clint? Did you really? Somebody links to someone who is thought of as a spammer, and it makes the person a spammer? Get a brain, my son. Better still, as someone said earlier - get a life ;)
     
    PhilC, Jan 26, 2006 IP
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    #56
    Holy cow this thread is out of control
     
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    #57
    So now that everyone seems to of vented can I just say that I have little sympathy for anyone employing hoards of people to make 1000's of websites with content that is available elsewhere.
     
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  18. PhilC

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    #58
    That's a perfectly valid opinion, stuw, but if you read my post above you'll see that it isn't applicable in this case. The "hoards of people" are around 20 employees, and the business is website design for clients. It's not the same thing at all.
     
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    #59
    But if you read the posts on the first few pages, you'll see that is what, in part, started the thread
     
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    #60
    The thread was started to try to embarrass someone. It didn't attempt to get to the bottom of anything. The intention was simply to throw some mud and hope that some of it sticks.

    But just out of interest, many people believe that spam is wrong, and that trying to manpulate the rankings is wrong, and many people believe the opposite. Everyone is entitled to their views, and, for each of us, our views are right. So I don't find fault with your view, but it doesn't apply in this particular case. Hoards of people are not employed to create websites from other sites' content.
     
    PhilC, Jan 26, 2006 IP
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