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Raise the Cap?

Discussion in 'Co-op Advertising Network' started by thebassman, Dec 14, 2004.

  1. #1
    Since the newsletter has gone out, and the network has started to grow like crazy, don't you think it's about time we start raising the cap? Especially with the referrals not being capped, I don't see the point of having the cap, really... or at least not as low as it is....
     
    thebassman, Dec 14, 2004 IP
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    xml Peon

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    I Agree...
     
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    Infiniterb Well-Known Member

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    Yeah, I'm kind of interested in how the cap is determined for the overall network. I know it's growing exponentially because the more people that join, the more referrals there are. And when I signed up a few months back, I was like the 500-600 member. Now we're over 2000.
     
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    thebassman Asleep at the Keyboard

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    And why we even need the cap anymore... :?
     
    thebassman, Dec 14, 2004 IP
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    SEbasic Peon

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    No offence Tim, But I think the cap is justified still, especially on a site like yours - You can only get so much benefit from links from one domain.

    Maybe the cap needs to be raised, but not disregarded.
     
    SEbasic, Dec 14, 2004 IP
  6. thebassman

    thebassman Asleep at the Keyboard

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    I have a weight of 80999, and with referrals, I'm sure there are people out there that have a weight of 10 times that... why should 1 site be capped, when the network isn't capped? Basically it means people that are capped are giving a whole lot of free links out...
     
    thebassman, Dec 14, 2004 IP
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    l234244 Peon

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    If people are administering a fast moving forum and have hit the cap, can they not move there archive to a different forum to gain more weight? Just a thought.
     
    l234244, Dec 14, 2004 IP
  8. thebassman

    thebassman Asleep at the Keyboard

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    But you can only have 1 account per domain... moving the archive to a different domain might work, though... but probably not the greatest idea.
     
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    I do agree it should be raised as both of my sites have hit the cap which sucks, but it shouldn't be raised too much otherwise there would be too much ad saturation, like we have with Shawn's. :p
     
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    maha Well-Known Member

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    I think there should be a cap. Say if I was the webmaster for Amazon.com and I join the Co-op. What would then be my weight? 100000000000000? or something larger? that would be crazy.

    A site like Amazon.com would *take over* the network without a cap! You would see my ads on all the Co-op sites!
     
    maha, Dec 14, 2004 IP
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    a389951l Must Create More Content

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    Yeah I think there needs to be limits also. Referrals shouldn't be capped b/c there is no incentive at that point to refer more members in.
     
    a389951l, Dec 14, 2004 IP
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    thebassman Asleep at the Keyboard

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    #12
    I'm not saying there shouldn't be a cap, but I think it should be a lot higher than what it is... there's no point in putting a cap on one site if there's not a cap on referral weight as well.
     
    thebassman, Dec 14, 2004 IP
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    maha Well-Known Member

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    What is the current weight Cap? How does one know if he hit the cap?
     
    maha, Dec 14, 2004 IP
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    thebassman Asleep at the Keyboard

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    You know you've hit the cap when your site continues to grow and get indexed, but your weight doesn't go up. It seems if you're a PR6, the weight cap is 80999. The current theoretical cap for a PR10 site is 135,000.
     
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    So, *if* I was the webmaster for Amazon.com, my weight (capped) would only be about 100,000 since www.amazon.com is at PR8 right now?
     
    maha, Dec 14, 2004 IP
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    Ah man; I was hoping the cap for PR6 was higher than that. Cap for a pr5 is barely below that. I did just add my tiny pr 3 site to the network and got a whopping 1900 points out of it LOL. Consolidating em is prety cool though, makes it easy to manage.
     
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    thebassman Asleep at the Keyboard

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    Something like that, yup (and you'd have to run the ads (5 of them) on every page of your site (or a directory of your site). ;)
     
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    Eventually the cap is going to have to be raised to allow sites to compete with shawns ebay page, lol. Currently every other page load shows one of them. I would not like to see the smaller sites get lost in amongst all the big sites, after all these smaller sites add the most value.
     
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    thebassman Asleep at the Keyboard

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    True, but by capping the larger sites, it's not hurting the smaller sites at all... the smaller sites with 1000 weight or whatever are still getting the same benefit as the larger sites. The larger sites are just getting penalized for being large.
     
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    But your missing the point.

    I would rather have my ads displayed across lots of small sites rather than one big one.

    The value of your site doesn't increase expodentially, just because it is exactly that.

    One site. One domain...

    You can only get so much benefit in the network from 1 domain.

    Don't et me wrong, I think perhaps the cap should be raised, but I don't think large sites are being penalised for being large.

    Your site is currently worth 40 of my blog.
    Personally, I would rather have my links across 40 different small sites rather than 1 huge one.

    Wouldn't you?
     
    SEbasic, Dec 14, 2004 IP