Apparently I'm a racist against liars. Go ahead, keep making a fool of yourself. Pee your pants, blame it on the Jews, and post a video to YouTube. Knock yourself out kid!
Who are you/or your community to judge that The person you are following is only A God ? and others are not. Ok just answer one small question if any one of you are really a Muslim. In Islam keeping money and taking interest is illegal (haram what you call) then why you guys keep money in bank ..... Go ahead and lend all those money to beggar or just donate that for ur country (instead of asking other country for help). And all those who think you are pure just by going to that mecca , don't you follow your own quran , where it mention not to keep money for interest. and you all save money in Bank whole life to go to mecca.
What's even funnier is that the whole Mecca thing is a scam. It's just another way for the Arabs to rip off the Paki's, Bangladeshi's, Indonesians, Malaysians, etc...
Definition of red herring: any diversion intended to distract attention from the main issue. We are 2 pages into this thread, why is this isolated individual Will Spencer still talking nonsense to deviate people from the topic? I feel sorry for his mother. @knight, you must understand there is a difference between the Muslim (follower) and Islaam (religion). Once you understand this you will learn not to talk about the actions of a Muslim, it wouldn't make sense because a Muslim is human just like yourself who can make mistakes. And no we are not allowed to take interest, we can still use a bank as long as it is a bank not giving out interest, the reason we need an account is because in the world we live in today you need it to receive payments from work, people don't get paid in cash no more, similarly if you are an Internet Marketer you need a bank account to withdraw your income. Interest is evil, it is how America has grown, by violence and putting people in debt, check this thread : http://forums.digitalpoint.com/showthread.php?t=1933731#post14928758
Interest motivates people to save and invest. This isn't needed in a theft-based culture such as Islam. Muhammad was a caravan robber, which is not a "business" where saving and investing are critical. In that business, it's your victims who save and invest -- and then you come along and profit from it. Under those circumstances, it's no wonder that Muhammad didn't think much of the practice!
Just how retarded are you? If you can't understand simple sentences, find someone to read them to you.
That's all it is paper, your government creates paper in a factory and trades it with real money like gold, silver, diamonds and oil. This is how they suck the world's resources, it is just paper with a few numbers scribbled on it,wake up. Poor countries are kept in billions of debt, and they cannot pay it back, but that does not bother the greedy lender, they will tell you we will take your oil instead. How many western citizens are suffering from debts, bankruptcies, etc, some commit suicide, they cannot live with all this debt, sometimes the tax payer has to bail out a company because it has gone bankrupt.
Are you completely bleeping retarded? Have you seen the non-oil GDP's of OIC nations? With very few exceptions, Islam makes people and nations as poor as dirt. When the oil runs out in the middle east, there will be nothing left of the little wealth that OIC nations now enjoy.
I understand Muslim and Islam very well, because few of my friend are Muslim only. I never said that all are bad but I definitely say that for those people who keep on saying Allah is only God and keep on following the Q'uran instead of getting IN dept of it. And if you really follow Q'uran then just for your Allah sake , follow it for good not for bad. In which pathetic world you are living where for male everything is allowed and for women even going out without getting under a black blanket is not allowed. And btw "we can still use a bank as long as it is a bank not giving out interest," that's mean none of Islamic country provide interest, loan, Insurance.....etc . Give me a break don't try to prove you are out of this world. Even Your mecca organization have taken money in name of public welfare and they also put tax on the pilgrims and that not also small amount and it neither fixed ,they increase that with situation and economic growth of country . And if you don't know about it ,then just go ahead take a query over it from mecca organization (Municipality of Mecca) through email. Mind it due to that huge money many people can't even afford to visit mecca once in lifetime. So I think there should be some change in the signboard in mecca where it mention non believer should bypass, just mention there that poor Muslim should also bypass. Because "Mecca The Muslim holy Place " is only for reach people who can afford it.
Who cares what you think, do you own Mecca? Its like me saying, oh i think that I should get a seat in the house of parliament just because I feel like it.
No I don't own mecca. And if any how some good ppl had owned it ,then they have reconstructed it into some beneficial thing like free hospital or free school. "There is no bad in Quraan" ohhh sorry that's mean terriost who followed the Q'uran and doing jehad is good. "christian woman did not go to church without being covered" and roaming in market is two different things. Ok just tell me one thing why Muslim girl while coming out of home wear blanket and as soon as they get into party or their college/office they remove it and be in jeans/skirt/salwar-kameez. Isn't that looks like they were forced from home to get covered. And don't say it's not happening because all it's true And don't point toward the Bible because i don't believe in any holy book(they all are story book). Not for the sake for forum or you hate any one , just for being a good human think over these" People follow books and give huge donation for building up Mosques, temple ,church. Instead of that why not give those money to a poor person who is IN need of it . why don't you believe that god/or the feeling is within you and others. Humans are the greatest creation" .
Muslims are obligated to give in charity, you do whatever you like, so don't preach to me about donations. Why don't you help the poor instead of using your time to reply to my posts, silly questions coming from silly person.
I clearly mentioned that I was going to touch upon "religious discrimination" in Islam. Why don't you try to read before you type with your ass? That's true in the case of privately owned property, not in the case of a public city which is the hotbed of a religion. No religion bars non-members from entering their temples or churches except for Islam. It has everything to do with discrimination. Talking shit doesn't make you smart. We're debating equivalents of the barring of Non-Muslims from the city of Mecca. If your religion practices inter-communal harmony, there should be no reason why I should be barred from entering because I'm not Muslim. So, your god created himself? Gee, that's very smart. What if I told you that the big bang created itself and there is no god. Firstly, god is a concept created by man, and is yet to be proven. Until proven right or wrong, 'tis safe to assume that there is no god. Yes, and I can also burn your Koran without an issue. I can also verbally assault your Allah and also poke fun at your Prophet. Nope, I simply said mine is tangible and yours isn't. That's something you believe based on what a 10th century camel trader said. What makes you believe that god, if it exists is a "he". Could also be a she or a bi-sexual. You can feel the wind and it has been scientifically proven to exist. You can see me, since I talk. Does your god ever talk to you? Does he use sign language to communicate? If you believe god created man, then do you not believe in the theory of evolution? So, what happened to the dinosaurs or the Neanderthal man? Did Allah get bored one day and kill 'em all? The Earth has existed longer than Islam. Mankind has existed longer than Islam. Other religions have existed longer than Islam. What makes you think Islam is right and other religions are wrong? You don't believe in the freedom of speech since it hurts your "Islamic pride" when we show you how silly your religion is. I have nothing against anyone exercising their freedom of speech. Why do you Islamist jokers get so peeved when someone says something bad about your religion?
Whose silly everyone knows........ didn't got money for flood people and thinking building warheads and promoting terrorism. Edited:- Just tell me how many minister of your country (off course Muslim) have donated for flood victim and how much...... just compare that figure to non-muslim community figure you will get the answer. And next time talk like mature person not like a 17 yr kid who follow a book without reading and getting logic behind it.
Again, you keep talking about Muslims. How many times do I have to tell you, people should not be talked about, if you are really sincere you talk about the source of information and not the people who follow it because they are fallible. You should know better. @stephenhacking: I do not engage in conversations with people who are disrespectful and insult others for no reason, you are dismissed, please do not address me again.
clearly some have an issue with staying on topic so I will end this thread, anyone else who posts I think just has a mental problem. you can visit my new thread "confessions of an economic hitman" thank you
I have nothing against Q'uran(it's just a story book like other holy book) so just talking about people(Muslim) who read a story book and follow it in negative way.