Question about these new article scripts and what effect it could have on Google ban

Discussion in 'Google' started by jg123, Jul 24, 2005.

  1. #1
    I have heard so much about these new scripts that pull articles automatically from free article sites and put them up on your own sites. What I am thinking is that if you pull say, 300 articles (even if they are roughly on topic) to your own site. Will Google penalize you for duplicate content?

    thanks
     
    jg123, Jul 24, 2005 IP
  2. yfs1

    yfs1 User Title Not Found

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    In a word, no. Most of these scripts are just doing what people have been doing for years. The fact that it is made easier doesn't change the benefits.

    The only drawback right now is that many of these scripts are unautorized and greedy. They remove the live links and the any mention of the source of the articles.

    If you use one of these scripts, you may find yourself being asked to remove the unauthorized content by the site you are stealing from (Yes, with no acknowledgement, it is stealing)

    This was evident when GoArticles recently posted to a thread here where a script violating their TOS was sold and all the sites that paid for it had to remove their articles.

    Do it right and it can benefit you greatly. Do it wrong and you will find it costs you a lot of money and time with no benefit.
     
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    trichnosis Prominent Member

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    what's the url?
     
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    The url of what?
     
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    Infiniterb Well-Known Member

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    I think he's asking the url of the program that takes articles...
     
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    Absolutely.... Increasing your duplicate content VS Unique content ratio will cause Google to rank your site lower. I know for a fact that Google has been doing this for years. Yes years !!!

    I know one PR5 website that ranked lower than many PR2 , PR3, and PR4 sites - and for 3 years now. And for it's own name too.

    If you don't beleive me, try selecting 500 articles that are already used elsewhere, add them to you strong PR5 or PR6 site... Let Google index them, it then watch your ranking fall. You can report your finding here :).
     
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    Hodgedup Notable Member

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    I think he wants the url for that Numa Numa fat kid dance.
     
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    There is no such thing as a Unique vs Duplicate Ratio
    One site doesn't prove a myth where there are thousands that show the opposite to be true. I would propose that if they have been ranking badly for three years, there are other much bigger issues. There is a lot more to the SERPs than PR.
    In fact there is a huge amount of people that already do that (the majority wouldn't be adding 500 though), and haven't experienced a Google "penalty" or a penalty from any Search Engines.
     
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    So are there some recommendations for good article scripts?

    Thanks
     
    gford, Jul 24, 2005 IP
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    marcel Well-Known Member

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    There are just good and experiences on both sides.

    About the script... I'm against the leech script because scum folks willl use it on other sites as well.
     
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    As long as it gives proper acknowledgements, I'm personally not against it but the newest wave seem to strip these. If thats the case I would agree with you.

    GFord - As far as I know none of them right now are authorized so there isn't a site offering them. The original post was reffering to some of these scripts posted in the Buy/Sell/Trade.

    I can only speak for my own site and say that Article Depot is working with another site to develop an authorized script to use articles from our own site in addition to our coming RSS feeds. The reason we are doing this is to make this technology available without fear of having your ip banned and face legal issues. We are also doing it to make sure our submitters are protected as we will have full control over how content is used and check it often.

    Cheers
     
    yfs1, Jul 24, 2005 IP
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    If it strips out urls and anchor...it's no good in my mind.
     
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    i have found my articles on sites (completly random weird sites) and no mention of my url anywhere

    of course there is no one to usually contact either.
     
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    I'm busy altering a script I've bought so that it keeps the correct author references etc - cost was only $19 so it was less hasle than starting from scratch.
    I have absolutely no problems with giving the author credit for the work he's done - why should I he's saving me a lot of time and effort. Passing off the content as purley your own is theft, but so long as you use the articles as intended and add your own layout around it - navigation, headers, footers etc etc then the article shouldn't be picked up as duplicate content.
     
    jlawrence, Jul 25, 2005 IP
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    JLawrence - I'm not sure which site your script pulls articles from. If it is Article Depot, you can drop me a PM with the site you are adding the articles to (or the page where a sample article has been placed) and I will tell you if it is approved.

    This will keep your IP from being banned.

    Cheers
     
    yfs1, Jul 25, 2005 IP
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    At the moment, it's pulling from articlecity - I think.
    There are a few things with the script that I don't like. It caches the pages locally - which I do like - and it gives the correct acknowledgements to the author. But it doesn't give any recognition to the original site owner, which I don't like.
    I'm working on changing the script so that it gives aknowledgements that I'm happy with.
    It's pretty easy pulling the articles from articlecity as their articles start and end with html comments.
    With your site, I'd have to pull the article ID's and send the script to the correct page to get the source. I don't see that it would be too difficult to do.
    With the RSS feed you mentioned, it should be very straightforward as this would make getting the article id's much easier.
    Ideally, what I'd like to do is use a couple of sites as sources. But that would make the content checking more awkward - I obviously wouldn't want duplicates :)
     
    jlawrence, Jul 25, 2005 IP
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    I wouldn't put too much work into it though as Article City closed down several months ago :cool:

    They haven't accepted a submission since some time in April
     
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    I noticed that there was nothing new :)
    But there are still useful older articles and it's useful to check the actual operation of the script - ie the caching etc. The actual parsing side of the script is going to be pretty similar for pulling from any site.
     
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    Cheers - If you need any info from me, just PM me. We will be adding a listing of approved scripts in the next week or so. We are accepting both paid and free versions for listings (the actual listing is free as long as it complies).

    We will also hopefully be adding a licensed version that will be very feature rich but I don't have a timeline for that.
     
    yfs1, Jul 25, 2005 IP