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Question about Google Pagerank

Discussion in 'Link Development' started by JasonJan1, Nov 7, 2009.

  1. #1
    Hi :)

    I'm confused about Google Pagerank.

    Many people say it's calculated on how much quality links
    point to your site. They count as points.

    Other people say it's calculated on the middle % of all PR,
    that other people link to you.
    For example: if 100 people with 4 PR link to you + 100 people with PR 0 link to you, you get a pagerank of 2.

    My bidding directory had in the past reached PR 4.
    The last 7 months, I'm getting more backlinks with all sites that have a good alexa ranking. All sites, including those with Google PR 0.

    My google pagerank dropped 5-6 months ago to zero.
    Then I received more backlinks of PR 3, PR 4, PR 5 sites.
    With the next Google update, my Google PR increased back to PR 2

    I still didn't understand.
    Then I've received more backlinks of lower PR sites.
    A month ago, my Google PR dropped again to Zero.
    SEMrush
    In my eyes, when you have for example Google PR 4
    See that you don't get new backlinks lower than PR 4
    or it will hurt you !!

    If you have PR 4 and receive to much PR 2 backlinks,
    you're site will drop to PR 3 and then to PR 2

    Some people create a new website.
    They receive 2 backlinks of a PR 6 site
    Next time, they have also PR 6

    What do you think ?

    If Google PR really works like this ...
    then I find Google PR the stupids thing there exists.
    And the most dishonest thing on the internet.
    Then I hate it.

    But sadly it costs on my bidding directory in my signature.
    Due the PR zero, I get less submissions now :mad::mad:
    Even my visitors are increasing after a while !!

    (Sometimes I ask myself, why do I promote my site further for getting
    more visitors to it, if I don't can get new buyers to my site)
    And what is now $2 for receiving permanent visitors ?

    People who look first at Google PR need to have lessons
    about what's the most important thing of a website.
    PR or visitors to theire site.

    Everyone should look first at Alexa ranking and never again
    to this stupid Google PR, that's dishonest.
    But sadly 70% of internet people doesn't know this
    (just a guess :D)
    The most don't !! And look only at Google PR.

    Give me your oppinions people .....

    Jason
     
    Last edited: Nov 7, 2009
    JasonJan1, Nov 7, 2009 IP
    SEMrush
  2. JasonJan1

    JasonJan1 Peon

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    #2
    Continue if I'm right all about this ==>

    When you have for example 100 PR4 sites linking to you.
    Some may decrease after a while for any reason.
    And then you're site will also decrease in PR.
    Because they decreased.

    So dishonest, so dishonest.

    Jason :mad:
     
    JasonJan1, Nov 7, 2009 IP
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    rlydv Peon

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    #3
    I totally agree with you , pr is the most stupid thing in this world
     
    rlydv, Nov 7, 2009 IP
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    FunWadi Peon

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    #4
    Yes, PR is useless and most of the people look for PR when buying links and not traffic. To me PR is worthless and traffic is what matters...
     
    FunWadi, Nov 7, 2009 IP
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    Marco1_79 Peon

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    #5
    PR is almost useless right now
     
    Marco1_79, Nov 7, 2009 IP
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    sydzapp Well-Known Member

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    #6
    Please don't forget, You'll here are saying PR is useless and at the same time saying high PR backlinks matter. I feel PR is quite important as it s among the main factors that are considered to give value to a backlink.
     
    sydzapp, Nov 7, 2009 IP
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    mluther Peon

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    To be frank, theoretically it is PR link juice flow. But again it will not work in this fashion. If you have 50 PR 5 links, there is no guarantee that your PR will rise. I have seen this many time practically.
     
    mluther, Nov 7, 2009 IP
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    SearchBliss Well-Known Member

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    #8
    PR is so useless...except in your case because you are basically selling links (bidding directory), which Google hates because they don't want webmasters selling PR. You have less submissions because most seem to be buying the PR and not the traffic, so maybe you got your wrist gently slapped by G and they lowered your PR.

    The fact that your traffic has increased shows how little to no effect toolbar PR has when it comes to the SERPs.
     
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    parky Peon

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    #9
    Pr is not only about backlinks its also about content, pages with no backlinks can have pr.
     
    parky, Nov 7, 2009 IP
  10. JasonJan1

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    #10
    For me, high PR backlinks are important for one reason ... in my eyes ...
    Not for the Google PR, but mostly for Alexa Ranking.
    Those sites with high Google PR, are mostly sites with a good alexa ranking.

    And have so much daily visitors.

    Jason
     
    JasonJan1, Nov 7, 2009 IP
  11. JasonJan1

    JasonJan1 Peon

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    #11
    Indeed.

    Because also one day after another one,
    those 50 PR 5 sites, can also decrease for any reason.
    And therefor, you're site will also decrease ...

    Jason
     
    JasonJan1, Nov 7, 2009 IP
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    JasonJan1 Peon

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    ----------------------------------------------

    The fact is => in the past, there where no problems at all
    till Matt Cutts started to be more annoying, like he's now at the moment.
    Read his last message about bidding directories and paid directories.

    Seems clear, ... because he hates that webmasters can make money
    with directories of any kind.
    Due that, he will hate all those sites.
    And will find many ways to punish those sites.

    If his site was attacked due bad comments,
    be sure, he will say everything, to save his site.
    But when other people complain about dishonest things of Google,
    he say only ... Pfff, not my problem.

    Jason :p
     
    JasonJan1, Nov 7, 2009 IP
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    eyashwant Active Member

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    #13
    If PR is useless there are proof that based on that you will rank in google. let it be useless but you need that to rank in google as it is googles
     
    eyashwant, Nov 8, 2009 IP
  14. SeventyThirty

    SeventyThirty Greenhorn

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    #14

    That's interesting: My Google PR is 0, but I rank No1 on Google search?:confused:

    Search.. Retrogames and you'll see me at the top,.. and PR = 0
     
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    selectsplat Well-Known Member

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    #16
    False.

    A page with no backlinks can NOT have PR.
     
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    selectsplat Well-Known Member

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    #17
    Two things.

    First, SERP rank is not directly related to your PR. Yes, PR is a major factor, but it's not the only factor, and it's not unheard of to achieve good ranking on non-competitive key phrases wiht low PR.

    Second, when you say that your PR is 0, what you really mean is that your Google Toolbar PR is 0. However, Google toolbar PR is updated only infrequently, while your PR is actually updated continuously. In other words you may have a higher PR than the toolbar indicates.
     
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    selectsplat Well-Known Member

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    #18
    You can stop right there.

    The problem is that you own a bidding directory. Google doesn't like these sorts of directories because they feel that they are detrimental to search results.

    They often will 'wipe' the PR from sites that they deem are 'link farms'. Bidding directories were classified as 'link farms' in early 2008.
     
    selectsplat, Nov 8, 2009 IP
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    SERP position is more important then PR. Google PR is how important you page or sites. So i think first SERP and the PR is important.
     
    wblteam, Nov 8, 2009 IP
  20. selectsplat

    selectsplat Well-Known Member

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    Actually, Google PR is how Google quantifies the quality and quantity of your backlinks. And PR is the biggest off page factor in determining your SERP placement.
     
    selectsplat, Nov 8, 2009 IP