Question about Ad Targeting

I mean the whole cloaking allegation was wrong..

I know it "seemed" like someone trying to be deceptive, but now the reality seems clear, no?

 

I still dont get this point brothers? what are you trying to prove?
the ads appeared based on a site which is in a data base with a domain "meso" and somthing else now this you will called suspeciuos or cloaking?
God knows the truth there is nothing from my side to cheat any one not even google bot!
Let me remove those sites from the data base!
Thank you!

 

Still seems clear to me... Clearly Imran's "friend" (one thing people should learn is you can't have "friends" and use adsense). Several other peole looked at the site besides me. There was NOTHING on there for meso. In fact first thing I did was pull up the source and search for "meso". Nada. Then I went through it line by line and looked for ANYTHING that could possibly be construed as some kind of meso trigger. I even looked up some css designation codes to see if they might be triggering something. Nothing.

Just because Imran is here claiming innocence doesn't mean it was not happening. Whether Imran is responsible for it directly or some mystery "friend" was responsible, is not terribly relevant.

I will admit I was a bit annoyed when I made the connection between this thread and the other where Imran is rejoicing over high click prices on another site.

I hadn't even mentioned that the domain this site is on was BLACKLISTED as recently as 17 days ago.

The unfortunate reality of the world is cheaters are also very often liars, so it is hard to take people serious when they claim innocence yet the evidence points to guilt.

I do have a big issue with people who try to cheat the system. Adword advertisers pay a PREMIUM to get targetted advertising. Having Meso ads on the front page of a general purpose SEO directory is wrong even if it was not cloaked. They were not delivering targeted traffic to those advertisers. That means legitimate advertisers may suffer and advertisers leave the program because of insatisfactory results.

Way too many people treat this as some kind of video game to see how much money they can squeeze out and they have no comprehension or concious for their actions.

If you want to run meso ads on the front of an SEO directory, with or without cloaking, then I suggest you get advertisers that are paying the rate for general non-targeted traffic.

 

I did not ask any one to bring those ads? did I? those meso ads how they were generated I will give you the proof with the meso domains in the directory, and after that Iwill remove them.

I do respect advertisers, becuase of them we are here and this forum "adsense" exists becuase of them!

I have never cheated any one have no such plans of doing that.
I dont need to prove anything not even my innocense, If Im doing somthing wrong I will be kicked out of adsense. I will tell you I have had great time with adsense and I wish to continue the same I read TOS and folllow it correctly!

Just becuase of one small ad appeard on a directory you are questioning my honesty?
I have no control over what appears in the "adsense ads" nor do I try to control them!

You wanted to know the site which generated the high Click, here it is www.bollyheat.com and the place where it generated was a gallery www.bollyheat.com/gallery .
This is one rare thing that happend to me as a good!
I still try to convince you that "I have not done anything wrong, did not hide anything."

Edit: As I said I will show you apage with meso domain here it is:
http://www.digitalseo.info/dir/health/
Please view the page now I will be deleing that link now!

 

Meso listings in your interior directory is not going to cause them to appear on your main page where the 4 letters "meso" were not ever on the page a single time.

Sorry if I find this hard to swallow.

Well your "friend" did it then.. Regardless, something was wrong with one of your sites that was clearly in violation of the adsense TOS when this thread started. I made an innocent inquiry, because I was not sure why ads were being displayed on your site. Some others chimed in, and after further research it was clear what was going on.

We can only hope.

Okay... then I don't know what to tell you... Your site was in violation yesterday for a significant period of time. If it was in violation before then, I have no knowledge. I don't believe your protestations of innocence, but I think I explained why above.

Actually I think 7 of the adsense ads on the page were for meso when I first looked at it. So no it was not 7. It was basically the whole page overloaded with meso ads.

Then you really have no business running any kind of SEO-related service or site.

I know it was on another site... I don't know anything about that other site, and I have no inclination to go there.

Fair enough. And I am telling you what I saw, and what several others here saw. I don't know about India, but prisons in America are filled with people whom claim they did not do it.

Irrelevant. That page is not going to put 7 meso ads on your front page.

 

This directory shows the most recent accepted sites in the first page, Now you have to think why those ads were in the first page?
When that site was in first page those ads were displayed by bot picking on that domain! Agreed?

 

Aeiouy,

One thing you never did when trying to verify where the ads came from is check the cache to see whether there was any referrence to Meso in the near past on that page which could have been a possible trigger for the ads.

The Meso listing was on that page on the 24th of August evident from the Google cache.

You mention that what we see in the cache is the cloaked version.

I mentioned that the cached page looks very neat and ligit, wouldn't a damn cheater stuff the page litterally with meso terms and serve that to the media bot instead of a very neat looking page with 3 lines of referrence to Meso??

So..... the reality is there is NO cheating going on... the page actually did have those three lines of referrence.. The Mediabot visited the page and thought it was about Meso and continued serving ads regarding this.

Now as for having a listing about mesothelimia on the front page of an SEO directory (which triggered the ad), this is none of your damn business!

The worse thing which can be said is that the site is not very high quality, but this is none of our business. There are threads in this forum which have massive reference to Meso and the ads are of course Meso related.. so, what?

I don't think you will appologize for the allegations you threw at a member even after they have been proven to not be accurate. Therefore, I'm not going to keep dragging this.

 

I have only just joined this board to learn more about adwords and adsence,but what do i find ?

A few members that think it is there business to police other peoples adsence accounts.

All my time is taken up working on my sites and i have very little time left to read forums ect shame others do not do the same.

I run adwords and dont like to be cheated,but it does go on and if i dont like it i can always pull out my ads.
what i will not do is bleat on and email google with the offenders sites.

whats worse a cheat or a grass and busybody ?

you have no right to say what is and is not against google t+c,s pointing at members websites,you should only make generalisations.

I would rather go out of business than scream not fair.

some members on here have less morals than the owners of adsence cheat sites.

mind your own f*cking business and go update your sites...

 

Hey, newbie, buzz off, the adults are speaking here.

Spdude, I don't see why anyoone should be apologizing here... check out the other thread about this, there seems to be some other weird stuff popping up from this directory

http://forums.digitalpoint.com/showthread.php?t=26096&page=4

Of course, he just chooses to go "back on topic" and avoid the issue...

 

Adults ??

no need for the buzz off is there ?

I am 42 years old.

you my friend are either very young or very stupid making comments like that.

 

Hmm smells like a Gadood alt to me...

If you are not a gadood alt, you sure are as ignorant as he is.. And at nearly twice his age you should not be allowed near a computer.

 

He's just a troll, pay no attention to him

 

please could you explain why you say i should not be allowed near a computer ?

please try and refrain from being arrogant and abusive in your answer.

 

Why do you say i am a troll have i hit a raw nerve ?

did you think that post of mine was directed at you ?

 

Yeah, please refrain from being arrogant and abusive in your answer, don't post things like mind your own f*cking business and go update your sites...

 

that post was a generalisation not aimed at any one member.

 

Sorry I left the conversation. My mom was affected by the hurricane and I needed to help her out.

THis piece of code in the index file calls the ads.htm file: When you look at the original downloaded source file there are your normal google ads - which by the way indicate nothing about a framed page.

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</script><iframe name="google_ads_frame" src="digitalseo%20-%20Free%20Directory_files/ads.htm" marginwidth="0" marginheight="0" vspace="0" hspace="0" allowtransparency="true" frameborder="0" height="60" scrolling="no" width="468">&lt;img&gt;</iframe><br>This is a Free Ad Based, Manned Web Directory!</td>

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THis is some of the code in the ads.htm file:

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Q: "How do I do this in IE?"
A: "Use Firefox."

I love it. That's becoming a favorite reply of mine at work. Unfortunately, I also have to say "Use IE" to Firefox people pretty often when using our Intranet - which ain't Firefox-friendly.

 

What does that have to do with our discussion??

Thanks for that, flawebworks.
"oh, but I am just an innocent publisher"... lol

 

Well if you go back to the beginning of the thread it is on topic....

Thanks from me as well flawebworks. I didn't think to save the pages at the time... But in my opinion the fact that the page was like that yesterday and then changed today before any acknowledgement indicates that this was intentional.