Putting Together Specific Terms Of Service

DP servers serve the links (ads) right?

SE's can identify this server along with those of the other co-op's in a pages source code, can they not?

 

Nope.

The ads are called from the servers using PHP, SSI, ASP whatever, then included directly as content server-side.

If you take a look at (the source) of any page carrying DP network content, there will be zero reference to servers/sources.

 

In fact, that extends to (links to) sites that are in 'bad neighbourhoods' in general.

The DP network would not suffer from association (because there isn't any) anyway, it's more a matter for treatment on an individual site basis.

Cheers,

JL

 

I think a network is as good as the members of it.
I like the rules that Shawn has established, the network should stand the test of time.

 

In a WM's fairy tale world SE's would turn the other cheek -- but the network produces un-natural links, because of this I am sure Google and Co. will investigate such networks and neutralise them.

I am sure the network has promise now, but I see its usefulness decreasing over time.

 

I agree. That's my opinion.

 

Too much self interest coming in here......it's funny when something is working well people take advantage then bitch when they can't take a bigger slice of the pie.
Eventually if it continues the infighting will destroy the network a lot quicker than Google ever could.
From all accounts the network is exceeding expectations several times over so leave well enough alone.

Be thankful for what we have here, I see people bitching about how their weight is allocated, others selling weight and spammy porn related sites creaping in.
These all contravene the whole spirit of the network, which Shawn has put together for the benefit of the members without playing big brother.
I don't agree with selling weight, someone who buys weight is not going to treat the network with any respect, the attitude will be that because they "paid money" for the weight they should have more right to use the network for whatever they like, porn, spam etc.

Some intelligent people seem to be selectively misreading Shawn's comments in order to confuse the issue.
Unfortunately because of what is happening I have to pretty much agree with gchaney's post.............. if people accepted and abided by the guidelines instead of trying to find loopholes to exploit the network this conversation wouldn't be taking place.

Cyclops.

 

Cylopse, I agree 100%. The program with most programs is people are trying to f*** it up!

I see a good foundation here unless other programs/ pseudo directories whatever you wanna call it that only benefit the guy who started it or a small core group.

I cannot say for sure how this program will do long term but I do know that a good foundation has been laid considering how hard it can be with such a large group of "anybodies".

 

Shawn when does this come into effect? I've got to admit due to the success of this network (for me) I was pleased to see other networks arise so I could benefit from those also. Is it in effect now, is it going to be in effect soon? I was waiting to see member reaction and to see how you let this pan out however what I don't want to do is find my dp subscription terminated due to not conforming to the rules.

The reason I ask is it took me forever to add my 100+ websites....It's going to take me forever to then delete them. And if you change your mind I'll be here till next Christmas

It's a hard decision to make as I'll be losing the benefit I've gotten elsewhere.

 

I would be happy to help with the TOS or to work on any other part of the coop. I just read through this thread again and realized that it was to get ideas for a coop TOS...and it turned into a bitch session.

The more specific the TOS get, the better job any of the "admins" will be able to do, and it will lessen the work load for everyone...especially shawn.

Anyway, hope everyone had a safe and happy holiday.

 

Simple to understand for anyone, clean, not overloaded with rules and regulations, looks fantastic.

 

thanks for putting that together Shawn.

 

You misspelled vague: vauge

 

FWW has all the fun, how come I did not notice that?

 

So no selling or buying of weight! So I can't help out my clients by allocating some weight to their sites, and have it as part of the SEO work I do? It should be relatively easy for Shawn to see, as the ads he gets given for approval would not have co-op ads on them if there was some "sale" happening.

I would have liked to dump a whole lot of weight/links on clients to get them out of the sandbox... oh well, the poll and Shawn have spoken.

 

COOP is a great tool BUT with it's explosive growth rather needs some careful introduction (see later in my rabling)

(from TOS)....The main reason for this is to prevent users from overloading their own sites with ads and diminishing the overall quality of the sites in the ad network......

Sorry but that is bullshit

Even ADS allows additional ads from various sources (unfortunately one may say)

Coop ads are shown on sites that are plastered with ads from all sorts of manners including sliding dhtml and ADS
(It's already a nightmare to filter these out in ADS)

I do know that this is issued in good intention and due to some undue worries of other webmasters but I think it's not a good idea.

As one should not just critisise but be proactive here is an approach

Initial new site 1 or 2 ads max.
Review request for more ads after 30 days next 60 next 90 days
Recommendation of x members with min xxx posts required

This will also have the advantage of introducing sites carefully as a sudden explosion of links will trigger "filters" at G.

A reson why I reduced ads from 5 down to 3 on one of my sites as coop is a bit too succesful. (Y adds about 2000 links each cycle on a 1200 page site)

Whilst I'm writing this it may also be prudent to coax members in the future in not showing the ads in a manner that allows for easy pattern matching
like ad1 ad2 a3 ad4 ad5 as external links without any blurb inbetween are easy to filter out.
Here it maybe (certainly for me) of interest to find a way of showing the ad description(s) between links.

Just my UK morning thought.
Expat

 

I have fallen in love with the new TOS from the first sight

However in my opinion it should be emailed to every co-op's member, because right now I think that vast majority of users are not aware of the new rules.

Maybe also after such email every user should somehow confirm/accept the new TOS (by pressing some kind of button or something), and if anyone wouldn't do it in one week then his adds would be blocked until he does so?

What do you guys think about it ?

 

Shawn i have a little question about the quoted text.

I run a similar to Coop link network in Poland for Polsih sites only. Our network has a verry similar TOS to coop.
We don't allow porn, spammy, warez, gambling etc site in the network.
Each site puts only 5 text links from my system.
Each link and site is review by human, to make sure it's quality site (all sites are in Polish language, so we can find "bad apples" easily).
All sites than don't corespond to TOS are banned.

A lot of good high quality Polish sites participate in my system. Some of them also participate in Coop, so I would like You to check my system and see that it can work with coop in symbiosis.