How was that irrelevant? Because you said so? Why not answering my claims that you oppose? I know a little bit about Rockefeller too, but not that much. If I would read, I don't think I would judge it the same way you do, so please provide your theories about the family instead. I'm still confused how you came to that conclusion. Can you describe how they control Cheney and Bush? Have the control increased or decreased within the latest years? How did you came to that conclusion?
maybe there is no "Illuminati" left anymore but the idea of King and the Kingmaker is very old and still in practice.