publik skewl is a scam

Discussion in 'Politics & Religion' started by demosfen, Oct 30, 2007.

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    I decided to join homeschooling epidemy before the UN bans homeschooling and pulled my 1st grader from skewl. She'll do better placing on average in 87th percentile for homeschooled children comparing to 28th percentile for inner-city publik skewl. I figured she'll make more money hiring your 28th percentile children when she grows up then working at McDonald's. There was an artile the other day that 10% of publik skewls are dropout factories

    Publik skewl is a scam to steal money from property owners, and if you are sending your child there, there is a punishment for it. It is part of the UN agenda to make sure that the next generation of publik skewl children will grow up to be homosexuals and whores. Schwarzenegger's attack on morals is just the beginning.
     
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  2. stOx

    stOx Notable Member

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    Some advice.... Find out the difference between "then" and "than" before you start teaching anyone. ;)
     
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    KalvinB Peon

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    How does the UN intend to ban homeschooling?

    A quick Google search shows that this is from 2006.

    http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=50395

    Why would we need an amendment for that? Wasn't that the whole point of the Revolutionary War? What's the point of a constitution if it can be overruled by an international body? Didn't we cut ties with good ol King George so we could rule ourselves?

    This is a non-issue. At least for Americans.

    I find it hard to believe that an international body can dictate how a parent in any part of the world raises their child.

    Also, http://www.unhchr.ch/html/menu3/b/k2crc.htm, the actual treaty, just dictates that the child must be allowed to disobey the parents. So if the kid doesn't want to be homeschooled then the parents can't legally force them to be. Nothing is explicity illegal. It is only illegal if the parents try to force the child to do something they don't want to. It puts the child in control of the parents. Another communist/socialist attempt to destroy the family.

    The only reason "homeschool" is brought up is because most children that are homeschooled are from religious families who want to incorporate religion into the curriculum. The treaty makes it illegal to "force" a child to learn a religion. So really, what this is saying is that in the home the child has a right to be diobedient, but those rights end in a government setting. A child could not legally object to being taught evolution or some political ideology on religious grounds in a public school but if the parents were to teach the same, they would be breaking the law.

    This is another reason why the UN is a worthless organization that should just STFU.

    I bet if Americans don't listen to this treaty, the UN will write a very angry letter.
     
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  4. demosfen

    demosfen Peon

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    By superceeding the Constitution... They are going to put Hillary in the office and implement NAU. Homeschooling is banned in UN resolutions. Parochial schools will go as well
     
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    debunked Prominent Member

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    I am left wondering if you are being sarcastic or ?? since you misspelled so many words while saying you are going to homeschool.

    I ask because we homeschool and some people actually believe homeschooled kids are not actually taught, beyond hope, unsocial, etc... I am betting gworld would probably say even worse.

    The thing I have seen amongst MOST homeschool kids is the opposite. Most can actually have conversation with adults that I barely see with public school kids, most have plenty of socialism with parental guidance, so less 'crap' goes by unnoticed.

    I say most, because there are a few out there that say they homeschool, yet they don't teach their kids a thing. The kids sit around and play video games or smoke weed with drop-outs and then can't even pass basic tests.
     
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    ncz_nate Well-Known Member

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    don't feed the trools!
     
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  7. KalvinB

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    homeschooled kids do statistically better because statistically, those who are homeschooled are upper middle class with two college educated parents.

    statistically, those who teach in public schools have to deal with 30 kids at a time, many of whom don't want to be there. In some states you don't need a degree to teach. So the teachers are less educated than homeschooling parents and they deal with 10-30 times as many students at once.

    Homeschooled kids are more socially compatible with adults because that's who they spend most of their time with: college educated adults. They're socially awkward with kids their own age because they don't operate on that level.

    Our daughter is getting homeschooled. We fit in the typical demographic for parents who homeschool and we'd rather she got her social education in an environment with kids who actually want to be there such as karate, dance, etc. We can handle the academics.
     
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    debunked Prominent Member

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    We don't fit that mold, neither do 70% of those that I know that homeschool.

    I agree with you on the last paragraph about the social aspect. My kids do well and relate to other kids their ages, and can talk with adults. But if you want your kids to grow up able to have an adult conversation, it is good to start them young.

    stox, gworld and the like would think you are teaching your child to be bigoted, hateful, etc since you are a Christian.
     
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  9. KalvinB

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    So would the UN. That's why they want to force parents to bend to the will of children. Because everyone knows that children know what is best for them.
     
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    Ron Paul is the only candidate running who would withdraw us from the UN as part of his platform.

    Sovereignty. No taxation without representation.
     
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    debunked Prominent Member

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    Wouldn't that be nice.

    We should stop paying for the UN as it is.
     
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    samantha pia Prominent Member

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    i take it you went to the same school as these two
    :rolleyes:


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    No crap. If anything, the UN is a major pain in the ass, but the globalists love it. They think it's cool to outsource American sovereignty to an international committee.

    It pisses me off to think that a bunch of asian and european nations and their unelected officials can dictate American foreign and civil policy.

    If Congress, the President or the Senate does something we as a people do not like, we have the chance to rectify it the next election cycle. If the UN passes an unpopular resolution, how the hell do we get that overturned? :mad:

    The biggest mistake we made was going into Iraq under UN resolutions. Even now, GWB is talking about pardoning a rapist in Texas, because he has international rights under the UN that supercede American law. The guy was convicted of raping an American, and we have to let him walk because he wasn't given contact with the Mexican embassy. :mad: :mad:

    Globalism and nannying the world are going to be the end of this great country.
     
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    Not being sarcastic at all. I probably misspelled so many words because I was victimized by public schooling as a child

    It's true to a degree. They are socially unfit in a society of people that underwent early conditioning learning program at an institution that advocates homosexuality, trust in authorities, involuntary redistribution of wealth, etc. Like an eyeglass-wearing college professor would look socially unjust among drug dealers. Imagine what life would be like if it wasn't for public schools, no way politicians would be able to sell paper currency, income tax, or one-world government to people. Some homeschooled children indeed grow up to be nutcases, as far as sheeple are concerned.


    In real life, there are 4 adults per every child, so children spend most of their time with adults and are able to pick up some wisdom from them. Keeping child locked up in artificial environment with other children 8am to 3pm is damaging to learning process. There isn't much s/he can learn from other teens. Natural way is the best way, no need to interfere
     
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    Wow, well all I can say is that I went to public school and I say a few things about the fact that you're teaching your kid.
    #1 It's nice to take matters into your own hands. Congratulations.
    #2 Use some schooling company's materials, Don't write your own spelling and grammar material for your child to read and learn from.
     
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    Ron Paul sounds appealing but he really needs to prove to Americans that all his withdrawing from around the world isn't going to leave us weak and vulnerable.

    What good is money saved on not paying income tax if we are forced to speak Spanish or Arabic?
     
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    The american public school system is historically one of the fundamentally great building blocks of American society and culture. It has been a dramatic example for creating equal opportunity for not decades but centuries.

    It certainly has problems now. Certainly there is room for home schooling, private and parochial schools. Still in so many ways it is an incredible institution that deserves to be supported. Likewise it is subject to being upgraded, changed to adjust to the times, and it should reflect the needs and wants of different communities and states.
     
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    You can prove it to yourself. Look at who your "enemy" is. they are third world nomads who use guns stolen from Russians, Bombs they make themselves and VHS tapes.

    America are supposed to be the biggest most powerful country on the planet. How can you be afraid of these people without feeling deep, deep embarrassment?
     
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    Why bother, spelling is a useless skill. I'd rather teach her something she could use in real life, like business, law, and history. Emphasizing useless skills and avoiding everything else is one of the ways the government prevents children from being educated
     
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