The affiliate program is a scam on this site (nothing against the advertising side of things), I had a newsletter with about 800 people in it and decided it would be better just to move these people over to ProxyShout since I really wasn't providing the number of proxies I had promised to the list. I sent out an email to my list telling them the situation and that I would add them to this new list to save them the time and trouble (plus get the affiliate fee) I also added to that email that if they didn't want to be moved to ProxyShout they should remove their email from my list, 150 or so opted out of my list during the following 24 hours. The day came that I was ready to move everyone over to ProxyShout, I gave everyone time to opt-out and even if they didn't take that opportunity they didn't have to click the ProxyShout activation link, so as promised to everyone I took the time to enter everyones email into ProxyShout as a courtesy to them and people started to sign up not long after that. This is a service that I promised them but couldn't come through so when I offered them the opportunity to move some of them took it, anyone who didn't want to move had prior warning of the situation and were informed that they didn't have to opt-in if they didn't want to. So after about a month it was time for my payment to come in and truly validate ProxyShout as an honest site that I could recommend to others and continue using, but unfortunately that is not the case, I was owed a little over $50 according to their system and yet I was only paid $7.25, I was informed that my account was being terminated and that I was not being paid for 191 of the people I had referred and who were genuinely interested in the service. So basically I am out the money for those validated emails and yet I am pretty sure they will continue to use them and if they don't it is a shame as those people who validated their emails actually wanted the service and knew what they were signing up for. I wouldn't recommend this service to anyone, you can go ahead an use the newsletter side of things since I have used it and it is pretty good, but please stay away from their affiliate program. Thanks
could it be you were terminated because you yourself entered every email address? dont companies like this usually give you a form to add to your site so the user can opt in??
Yes the form was added to my site, I replaced my old form with it and just transferred the old list to them, if I just added their code in place on mine most of the users in the list wouldn't sign up for it as they would think they have already done so. All of the emails that were validated were real users not me making hundreds of emails and cheating the system, so they should count just as any other users would have.
but wouldnt the submission ip be recorded as well?? I would interpet this as someone trying to scam the system if I saw 650 people entered from the same ip. Just trying to figure it out, not insinuating your in the wrong at all.
I understand what you are saying but it would have just taken one email from them to get the situation resolved if that is why my account was terminated, if I was truly trying to scam the system then all 650 would have been validated not just 191. I was also in contact with the owner of the site before I signed up stating my intention to move my list to his service and he was interested in purchasing it but I figured it was easier for both of us if I went this route that way he wouldn't get a bunch of dud emails, just people who were truly interested. The fact that I had already talked to the owner of the service about my intention to move my list to his service is what makes the termination troubling to me.
see I was unaware of that fact, Could it be possible he was upset that you didnt sell so he terminated your account?
I don't see how that would be a possibility due to the fact that he got all of the emails into his database anyway and because not all of the confirmed he got them at a cheaper rate. I have no issue with the money in this situation I just don't like how the whole situation went down and I don't want it to happen to anyone else.
The emails are useless to me... Once i realized they were entered as they were, I removed them from my database. As long as you don't try and scam, or manipulate the system you WILL get paid. For the record we DID pay him for the emails that legitimately signed up on his website.
Allow me to go a little deeper. On 7/19, he made an offer for me to pruchase the list for $120. I declined. He signed up for an affiliate account. We did NOT give him permission to mass register all of the emails nor was there EVER any communication from you, to us stating your intentions. Let's break this down even further. You assumed we wanted them, but since we didn't by them, and we pay $0.25 per valid email, that would net you $160, essentially forcing us a list that we did not want in the first place for $40 MORE than what you were offering. Once our audit was finished and your account was terminated, the 191 emails that validated (meaning the users accepted the subscription link), they were moved to an inactive status and will be purged from our DB through routine maintenance. In a communication to you from one of our owners, you stated you had the permission of every single person from the list of 640. We are sensitive to email abuse and spam. We do NOT take this lightly and I would think it is safe to assume that the people on your list would not be happy with what you are doing with their information. Even though he blatantly violated the TOS that he agreed to, we felt is was proper and in good faith to pay him for the emails that were not part of the mass registration. Most companies would have made him forfeit it all. David Jacobs was also given the opportunity to contest this in the court of his country and we would be happy to engage him in that. Obviously, the violation of our TOS along with a malicious attempt on our system is keeping him from doing that. I ask you DPers...given all that we have done in good faith, who is scamming who?
Ummm...your argument makes no sense. you sat there and cried about how you were "scammed" out of money. but then you say you don't care about the money. honeslty, it sounds like you violated their terms of service and got caught. did you ask them if you could do that? i know if anyone did that on my web site, your IP would be banned. at least they paid you for the other emails. frankly, you should be thankful they didn't come here first and drag YOUR name through the mud like you are trying to do to X. X, i'm signing up
jacobsd, It appears to me that you are the one in the wrong on this one. I am an affiliate with them and have been paid everytime. For the record, my payout from them this month was more than yours, so I don't believe money is an issue with them. Not very brave of you to come into a forum like this and air your dirty laundry either. You should consider yourself lucky that you were even paid at all. A friend of mine got his adsense banned and lost about $75.