Protecting Whois and Google SEO

I was told that Google and other Search Engines do take into account the Whois Information to find more about websites and can ranking them could have some inclusion of the whois data.

If we protect whois information using whois guard, what will be impact on SERPs or website in general as google and SE's won't be able to get the whois data for a domain.

I think that protecting whois can help a domain to be safe from some kind of troubles arising due to some bad SEO techniques used by websites on same IPs.
I am not sure how many people will agree to what i have said, but just need your opinion if WHOIS guard will help in any way.

Regards
Dhaliwal

 

I'd seriously doubt whois info helping anything.

 

hmm, with your screen name also having whois in it, i should take your word seriously.
But i thin whois is recorded by google and another SEs, if they record it, they will use it as well. in some way or other

 

Why would it be recorded? They don't rank people based on whether they like your last name or not.

 

This is part of the latest Google theory that domains with long registration periods will be seen as more serious websites by Google... a silly but persistent notion, IMO (for several reasons), but even if it were true the issue would be when the domain expires, not who owns it.

 

Actually, what I think the OP is referring to is the fact that some links can be devalued.

Google became a domain name registrar not to sell domains but to have access to the whois db. Some webmasters have numerous sites of the same theme. By tracking the whois they can do several things one of which is to discount links coming from others sites with the same whois information.

Just spend the extra couple of bucks and register by proxy.

 

For many reasons we now usually register by proxy and have seen no negative effects.

 

Yeah....... this really isn't that new of a thing. We've been doing it for a while now. I think we only have one domain that is not done by proxy.......... Well worth the extra few bucks.

 

If its that easy to get around, how much stock do you think Google is going to put in it as a ranking factor?

 

Minstrel......... wake up......... SEO is about getting around the ranking factor. The funny thing is that nobody in this thread seemed to know about it. The best SEO is knoweldge.

 

In the historical google patent google actually patents scoring domains or giving them weight based on how long the domain is registered for. Also it goes further by talking about blacklisting DNS servers domains use and also contact infromation on the registry.

Pretty much from what I interperate from the patent is if someone regs a domain for 8 years its less likely that domain is going to be used for spam.

Who knows what actually works though =P

 

A lot of the speculation stems from the United States Patent Application 20050071741 of which the contents were made public on March 31 2005. I agree that it's funny a lot of the so called SEO experts never even knew about it.

Check this article: http://www.buzzle.com/editorials/6-10-2005-71368.asp

 

It's not a matter of not knowing about it. It's a matter of not believing that the Google engineers are that naive.

Google has not made a habit of doing things that make it easy for webmasters to manipulate their search results. And thus my point that since the domain expiry date and other whois information is so easy to get around I just don't see Google putting any stock in it.

I can see them being aware of forum hysteria about every little breath the Google engineers take and doing something to send gullible webmasters off on a wild goose chase, however.

 

FYI................

 

"to learn more about the Internet’s domain name system"

That's pretty vague, don't you think? What does it really mean?

I don't doubt at all that Google is looking at new ways to evaluate link quality (and relevance), by the way. I just don't see them implementing anything that will be easily manipulated -- just not Google's style.

 

Do you read what you only want to read????

 

And who said this is new......... this all happened like 8 months ago.

 

Okay. I don't get your point.

I already said I don't doubt that they are exploring ways to improve their searches - but the object is to make them LESS susceptible to manipulation by webmasters, not more easily manipulated by them. So they explore various technologies and information sources available to them -- they don't necessarily implement them all, right?

 

It might be easy for a person with say 2 domains to register a domain for 10 years, but for a webmaster having 500 websites, it might be a big deal

And for those who want to test an idea or spam, they only want to register a domain for a year and thats what might make google think that guys who register for less time are less serious, or your site should be old one to prove that you are here for serious business and not just to register a site to test something for just a year.

Whois might not have much weight but could be something google counts.

 

That is a really good point... and just to continue alone those lines-

Google files these patents and knows the will make huge headlines and everyone will read them. Its what they WANT the public to know.

They are not protecting any of these things with trade secrets.

IMO Most of the things in these patents will not ever be implemented. Its what google wants people to take into consideration