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Pros and Cons with communism

Discussion in 'Politics & Religion' started by latehorn, Feb 14, 2006.

  1. math20

    math20 Peon

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    #201
    All monopolies are creations of the state and by the definition of capitalism force cannot be used to coerce transactions.
     
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  2. ROAR

    ROAR Well-Known Member Affiliate Manager

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    #202
    No that is false.

    In economics, a monopoly (from the Greek monos, one + polein, to sell) is defined as a persistent market situation where there is only one provider of a kind of product or service. Monopolies are characterized by a lack of economic competition for the good or service that they provide and a lack of viable substitute goods.
     
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  3. math20

    math20 Peon

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    #203
    I agree that occasionally a company may have a huge market share but unless it is created by laws or through force it is not a negative thing and is not sustainable.
     
    math20, Oct 31, 2006 IP
  4. lorien1973

    lorien1973 Notable Member

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    #204
    With microsoft having such a huge share of the OS market for so long; I do not think computers would have come so far so fast.
     
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  5. Will.Spencer

    Will.Spencer NetBuilder

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    #205
    And when Microsoft's market share stops serving the public good, it will magically disappear -- whacked by the merciless invisible hand.
     
    Will.Spencer, Nov 1, 2006 IP
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    lorien1973 Notable Member

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    #206
    Nixon's invisible hand; that is.
     
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  7. debunked

    debunked Prominent Member

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    #207
    Nixon owns bill gates and microsoft too

    I think nixon ownes Dem Jooos at google and dey control the banks too.
     
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  8. BRUm

    BRUm Well-Known Member

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    #208
    Will, what are you talking about? Would you rather that business can have monopolies? And form Cartels?
     
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    debunked Prominent Member

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    #209
    You really read that from his statement? oh my....




    Nevermind, you are just trying to keep something going.
     
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  10. BRUm

    BRUm Well-Known Member

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    Well, he was obviously opposing my idea that a free market isn't good.
     
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  11. LinkSales

    LinkSales Active Member

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    #211
    Free market is the only way to keep things fair.
     
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  12. Will.Spencer

    Will.Spencer NetBuilder

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    #212
    Thomas Jefferson put it very plainly when he said "I am for a government rigorously frugal and simple. Were we directed from Washington when to sow, when to reap, we should soon want bread."

    Milton Friedman covers both angles with "The free market is the only mechanism that has ever been discovered for achieving participatory democracy." and "If you put the federal government in charge of the Sahara Desert, in 5 years there'd be a shortage of sand."

    Friedrich Hayek laid out the cold hard facts with "To be controlled in our economic pursuits means to be controlled in everything."

    More here
     
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  13. lorien1973

    lorien1973 Notable Member

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    The inherent vice of capitalism is the unequal sharing of blessings; the inherent vice of socialism is the equal sharing of miseries.

    - Winston Churchill
     
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  14. BRUm

    BRUm Well-Known Member

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    #214
    OK nice quotes you have there. However I was looking for your answers to my question:

     
    BRUm, Nov 2, 2006 IP
  15. Will.Spencer

    Will.Spencer NetBuilder

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    #215
    Yes, of course, any sane and reasonably knowledgable person would.

    There is so much that is good that is written on this topic, it seems bizarre that we are actually discussing this as if it were an open intellectual question.
     
    Will.Spencer, Nov 2, 2006 IP
  16. BRUm

    BRUm Well-Known Member

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    #216
    It may seem bizarre to you maybe, but not to me. I think that it's bizarre people would want a totally free market. Globalisation and monopolies are not good for mankind. Without Government intervention they'd be no laws restricting businesses to fuck up our environment even more.
     
    BRUm, Nov 2, 2006 IP
  17. Mia

    Mia R.I.P. STEVE JOBS

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    #217

    Speaking as someone in the telco industry for several years, I can tell you now that government intervention in the free market equals disaster. Break up the ATT... De-regulate.... Pass teclo act... Little guy gets screwed, ATT comes back together...

    Never works man. Never. Business's survive and thrive on their own. They also fail on their own. Add in government and everyone loses, save for the monopoly they were trying to save everyone from.
     
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    BRUm Well-Known Member

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    #218
    Freedom is all and good, but remember, too much of anything is bad. Businesses would be able to do as they want, and that may not be beneficial to civilians. Think about the environment and the extinct animals a company may be allowed to hunt under the free market.
     
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    LinkSales Active Member

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    #219
    Thats rather liberal of you Mia. :D
     
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  20. Mia

    Mia R.I.P. STEVE JOBS

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    What's liberal about that?
     
    Mia, Nov 2, 2006 IP