Yahoo Search SERPs and Inktomi Search and Altavista and Overture SERPs are the closest it has EVER BEEN The time is right to explore the "observation" that a Yahoo Directory Listing will potentially harm you for the SERPs for Web Pages that are well optimized. Analyzing about 50 sites - it appears that they are prominent on MSN and ALTAVISTA and Overture (organic) for the same keywords - but do NOT appear on Yahoo SERPs for those same keywords If the Yahoo editors REALLY LIKE your site - they will "hand manipulate" it for SERPS that correspond to the directory that it is in. (but those are very, very few sites) The problem is whether you should use a new domain or NOT use your Homepage when submitting to Yahoo OR Whether the Directory Link will REALLY help you in Google SERPs http://blog.searchenginewatch.com/blog/041223-084744
Hogwash.... this is how rumors get started. Do you have some evidence of this claim? Y! editors simply use your company name as the title and their own 'non-promotional' description, then add it to the correct directory listing. As for the overall conclusion that the directory hurts. . . not true in my experience. My site is 7.5 months old. I'm #1 for my keyphrase (3 words) in a pool of 1.2 million. I'm also #1 on MSN, MSN.b, AltaVista, AllTheWeb,and WiseNut. (I've got a long way to go on GG.) I see no evidence that a Y! directory listing helps, or hurts at all.
http://blog.searchenginewatch.com/blog/041223-084744 You have to question whether Search Engine Watch would let HOGWASH appear _________________________________________________ In the directory listings - they do have two sections, one for "Most Popular" and the "Alphabetical" http://dir.yahoo.com/Business_and_E...t/Promotion/Search_Engine_Optimization__SEO_/ What is the consensus among everyone on Yahoo appearing 1st on search engines and Search Engine http://search.yahoo.com/search?p=search+engines&fr=FP-tab-web-t&toggle=1&ei=UTF-8 http://search.yahoo.com/search?p=search+engine&fr=FP-tab-web-t&toggle=1&ei=UTF-8 DO THAT SAME SEARCH ON ALTAVISTA ALLTHEWEB AND MSN
While it may not help your organic serps it will not hurt either. My site is listed simultaneously at 3 (organic) AND 4 (directory) consistently now for the last week -- proof enough to me that it doesn't influence the organic listing.
I do have evidence but none that should be shared in a public forum. Every REAL seo knows exatly what I'm talking about!
http://www.content.overture.com/d/USm/ays/bjump/sm.jhtml Not intended for placement or ranking in search results is it possible that THESE pages are the ones that are manually manipulated it would make sense - because as REVIEWED sites - they have that Relevancy Approval Stamp
This does not mean that they either have the same index nor use the same ranking algorithm. This does not prove anything. There is no support for a logical induction either. You state this as fact without any evidence or support = worst post ever.
This reminds me of a Steve Martin story about when the Earth blew up a few years ago and the government decided not to tell the stupid people that we switched planets...
I'm guessing ! ! is still lurking around. I got a neg rep for my previous post with a comment, "Don't lie". I'm not sure what part the member considers a lie, but I would be more than happy to discuss the issue. I have never had a problem speaking my mind, asking potentially embarrasing questions, etc., but I have never knowingly posted a lie. IMO, that comment is a bit below the belt. Anyway, Yahoo owns Inktomi, Alta Vista, Overture, but they do not all use the same index or ranking algorithm. If they did, they would have the exact same SERPs. This seems rather logical and is easy to verify by a simple comparison of the SERPs. http://searchenginewatch.com/searchday/article.php/3314171 http://www.infotoday.com/online/jul04/OnTheNet.shtml Furthermore, an analysis of 50 web pages (out of several billion?) does not lend support for an inductive proof. A lot of people used to think the Earth was flat too because it fit with the limited information they had at hand. If you have proof to back up this statement: you have not presented it here.
Well being in the directory is not harming my site at all, I think your conclusion is incorrect. I regularly monitor my and my competitors positions and can see no evidence that those in the directory have worse SERPS.
Actually Guys, read this thread http://forums.digitalpoint.com/showthread.php?t=14778 Not saying that raider presented this correctly however he is on to something
Yahoo Directory is Dying, being replaced by PPC. Looking at the "new" sites, there are only a few add per day, a few years ago, it was HUNDREDS added daily. http://dir.yahoo.com/new/ Yahoo has improved in relevancy, however, so much that it does not even resemble the Yahoo or yesteryear.