Oh my God I can hardly believe. Here is the official proof of God! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oLiYg97iZ_o Even Noah's Ark was proven. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=csx4AgqnP0Q This guy thinks a lot like me so I had to post the videos.
This is not even close to what you can call "a proof". There are too many premises which do not hold in the good case, and are completely illogical in the worst case. The rest is plain BS. A lot of words which sound nice but mean nothing - as commonly to be heard when people preach their kind of religion. Very smart people were trying to prove the existence of god throughout history. I think its quite scandalous that of all people, a guy with such a haircut and not even a single book of philosophy or science in the shelves behind him, or a formal education to brag about, will be the first one who manage to do so. Also, if what he said made some sense, it would have earned the attention of the world's thinkers. But naturally, this is not the sense. "Noah's ark" was never proven: it is as ridiculous as santa claus. However, scientists hold the "big flood" story for true history. It is postulated that the black sea could have been created through such a flood: a collapse of the soil barrier between it and the adriatic sea, led to a massive flow of water in huge destructive waves and a centuries long flood. This postulation is supported by several achaeological findings of remains of human culture at the bottom of that sea, chemical findings, and signs of what the trauma has done to the soil stripe that collapsed. (p.s. probably the English channel was created in a similar manner). This true-based doomsday story found its way into most cultures of ancient days. Even the pharaohs of Egypt had their own version. The Judaic religion which emerged later (and its "spin offs"- Christianity and Islam) didn't miss the opportunity to adopt the story as well for its own purposes.
And the guy on the Youtube video is an atheist. He was talking about how Noah's Ark doesn't even make sense. Like the polar bears and penguins getting to the arctic and such after the flood. I am wondering if the Kangariis had to swim across the ocean to get to the ark. I guess the people who wrote it didn't know much about the geography of the world which makes perfect sense. My question is... why do people believe this crap?
yeah, and the bone-fish I found, well preserved in stone, in an area which is 180 meters above sea level was a flying fish and the Museum directer is now in a mental hospital after he watched these videos. Never heard of metaphors being used in bible story? Even there are parallel universes it was still God who created it. I believe you guys have problems with the term GOD and who he is. GOD only answered once when was asked. "I Am - THE I AM" - in other words "conscience" --- Conscience is an ability or a faculty that distinguishes whether one's actions are right or wrong. It can lead to feelings of remorse when a human does things that go against his/her moral values, and to feelings of rectitude or integrity when actions conform to such norms. The extent to which conscience informs moral judgment before an action and whether such moral judgments are, or should be, based wholly in reason has occasioned debate through much of the history of Western philosophy. Commonly used metaphors for conscience include the "voice within" and the "inner light". --WIKIPEDIA JESUS referred GOD as SPIRIT. Get a life guys, nobody can be above GOD
Excellent statment but while your so obsessed with having proof then how do you explain that not being in science or education books disproves existance? Except that Santa Claus was disproven and Noah's story of the Ark was not. That's stupid. It's impossible to determine the worlds' region layout in the past. There is only slight evidence to that.
I didn't understand your question. (Existance --> existence, your --> you are or you're). Very interesting. A) Care to elaborate more on how exactly was Santa Claus disproved? B) If it has been disproved and it is not common knowledge that it's BS, why do we still see so many Santas on Christmas?
The spelling is not important and I'm from Canada and we have a diff. spelling system than US and other countries. For example: color(US)= colour(Canada). What I was trying to tell you is that NOTHING has been proved. no science, no God, nothing, so why would you complain about Gods' proof but not go against all of the others. Santa? really....you want me to explain it. I don't see the point but.....Well Santa is suppose to visit every home in the entire world to give presents. This can be easily disproved by pulling an all nighter on Christmas Eve which has been done over a million times. Fake.
I understand what you were trying to tell me, now its time that you will try to understand what I am trying to tell you: Science is based on evidence, logic, and reason. the "science", as you call it, can not be called "science", unless it has been proven. By definition, every scientific theory comes along with an experiment which will refute it. God doesn't. Well. I can bring millions of kids who will testify that each and every Christmas a Santa Claus comes home indeed and give them presents.
Billions of theories are just hollywood BS talk and you know it. Practically every single event in the world that has happened was backed up by over 200 scientific theories who made a bunch of experiments and concluded, for example..........crop circles cannot be made by people in a day. And look what happened. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mt1hckdb7Sg&feature=related and there's still a load of your scientists running around saying its not possible........ This is one out of a million of the scientific theories. Religion does not have experiments. Instead they are called testimony, in which is hard to prove just like any theory. As said in the bible you have a personal relationship with God, therefore your evidence can only really be understood by yourself. I know and now you understand that people talking doesn't mean crap unless they got the proof to back it up. Science and religion do not offer solid proof to all people in the world so its pretty pointless for you to run out and burn against the one that you happen to have a grudge against.
It's actually spelled existence for us Canadians to. That's why some people might call it a delusion because it can be understood by yourself. You wouldn't know if you were suffering a delusion because your mind would be so keen on that idea that you would have to throw out most knowledge out the window.
So I'm waiting for your proof for "GODs theory". Wrong. Religion does not offer proof. Science is based on proof. In other words: Science = Proof. Religion = Fairy tales written in books and taught in popular culture. It is just unfortunate that many are not able to understand it: it takes much more dedication than to buy a DVD of a preacher or go to University every Sunday. You do not know and understand fundamental scientific realities and concepts, so what you say on science can't be true, and it isn't.
Damn, I thought I might get you with that one. Its possible, but just because only one person knows about something does not qualify it as a delusion. For example: you are walking outside and a car runs over the bottlecap. It just so happens that this bottlecap rolls about 14 feet and hits the curb. Only you saw this. This is an example of a possible delusion. Another example: You are reading this post and are making a reply but before you send it the topic gets locked. You exit the page and move on. Only you saw that you were in the reply box writing that. Did that really happen??? A delusion? Anyway delusion can't really be used because it can be anywhere if you point a finger. Even for real stuff. I don't have proof for you and your friend. You'll get your proof when you are buried. There will be nothing or something. There's no proof for science nor Christainity. Because a a scientist says science is based on proof does not mean that science is based on proof. If you read up on science in the 1920's you'll laugh your head of on what the scientists said about the world. There was a time where they found proof that lead was not actually bad for people. And 100yrs from now people will be laughing at the stupid crap that science says now. That's based on proof too? Science talks a lot but there is not much action from it. Talk, talk, and more talk. They say something and its proven wrong yrs later, and on and on. I understand science a tad more than you understand religion. I don't disagree with most evolution patterns and many different things. I can easily say that God created science so don't bother trying.
Actually as far as you know all that I did could've possibly been a delusion. I also wouldn't argue about it if I didn't have any proof.
It's clear that you know nothing about science. Science has proof at what they do, unlike religion which is a fiction novel that was written many hundreds years ago and had been revise in so many ways. Science does not have a period. Science it still learns, Science is a study of things around it. what was learn then, may be different today, but the difference between Science and religion is that, Science is more honest and universal and open, unlike the close minded of the religious members where as it is it. You cannot compare Science with religion because Science is around us, unlike the believing of nothing that is nothing about nothing. Comparing the two insults Science, to know Science one has to have some brains, while religion are meant for idiots and Mental Men. Science takes us to the sky and the moon, religion believe that if you blow yourself up or others you get to heaven, which to them is some where above the clouds. (chuckles)
So you are stating that nothing that happens really happened until there is more than one person who saw it? This is ridiculous but I really like you. Why say stuff that is so easily to prove wrong, man. I have major knowledge about the Triassic, Jurassic, and Cretaceous Eco-system. This was a rough estimate of between 254 & 65 Million yrs ago. That's science. Science has proof. Well, you let me know when they figure out which is better for your body butter? or Margerine? Or after the decide to research they did figure that one out. I can't keep track. Listen to yourself. You are saying that becuase its science its ok for it to be totally wrong because of learning or some crap like that. What a horrible justification by someone who is trying to defend what science said in the past. I suppose you forgive the 1 scientist backed by 200 others who concluded that bottled water is, at least, 50 times more healthy than regular based on their experiments........did they miss the water test kit? You know rare to none about religion. Give it up. You have a grudge against it for some personal reason or something. Since you jumped on the topic, how much cancer or poverty did that fix when they spent 3 billion to take a walk way back(or did they?). What did they learn from that. Rocks up there? And about the blowing to heaven business, forget about it. You don't know crap. There are plenty of Christians living today who accept offers to take a piece of heaven in their own life. Give it up. You don't know religion. I can simply just throw you a basic question like I did for the others in this topic about the bible and you'll just be like them "boo, I'm not answering that"
Well we can investigate and look for evidence and if we find it... at least we would have some sort of leads.
I'm less convinced in the exsistance of God after whatching this guy then I was before...he does not make a lick of sense. And off topic, I find British accent so difficult to understand...