Professor: Muslim men can't control themselves, women must adapt

True, have heard those stories as well. But in this case, we're being told that the actual crime is being provoked and being encouraged by the victim.

 

Friends this is not about islam people all we are same in fact and we must respect

 

we must respect women, definitely!

 

Blogmaster I say the same thing we must respect women and we must respect all muslims, to fight women is not special thing for muslims, many people do that.

not: sorry for english

 

If you ment "to beat women is not special thing for muslims, many people do that", then I must disagree.

 

nokiaking,

GTech and the others won't be polite enough to tell you how to post URLs without creating active links, but it is really pretty simple. Go to the advanced editing mode (where the reply forum is at the top of the page with smilies on the right). Post any URLs you want in your message window. Then before submitting the message go to the "additional options" section and uncheck the box for "automatically parse links in text".

This will allow you to post the full URL of your reference sources without trying to create an active link If you are quoting a message that has an active link simply delete the square tags and and make sure the afore mentioned check box is not checked. After seven days this will no longer be an issue.

 

It doesn't matter now. We already know he edited the verse for some unknown reason and then lied about it. His source is just going to verify that and we all know that already. No translations match what he posted. When you cut things out you put a "..." so people know it's edited.

What I'd rather know is why he felt that the portion he cut out wasn't worth mentioning.

Imagine if the US had a law on the books that stated causing mischief is grounds for death. Who defines what mischief is? Or a more direct question is "who defined what mischief is and what is that definition?"

What according to the Koran consistutes causing mischief?

 

It's not murder if it's within the law. If falling away or rejecting Islam is considered mischief then by the Koran the terrorists have every right to enforce the law and put people to death for not being Muslim.

 

You guys accuse everyone you disagree with of lying so your comments about the truthfulness of his posts carry zero weight. With that said providing reference sources is very important to help substantiate claims. Once we have the opportunity to see nokiaking's reference sources we can each make our own opinions up as to the validity of them.

 

You're going to have to back that one up. I accuse people who lie to me of being a liar. He already admitted he edited the verse. So I accurately called it. And I backed it up with the complete verse and source. The first response to him was in direct response to the portion of the verse he quickly edited out and then acted surprised about. It really doesn't affect me.

I'm trying to learn what Islam teaches and if he doesn't want to talk about something that is important then that's his choice.

Now we're moving on. What does that edited out portion mean. That's what I want to know.

 

I don't recall being impolite.

I have not accused "everyone", or anyone of anything.

 

I'm referring to those who demanded reference sources and then didn't volunteer the solution when he complained that he wasn't allowed to post links. We've all suffered through that seven day waiting period and it isn't immediately clear how to successfully post a URL without it becoming an active link unless someone points it out.

If you don't jump in and accuse people of lying then you aren't part of the "you guys" those who do it know who I'm talking about. No sense in publicly dragging all the names of the perps through the mud. The point is that too often the claim that someone is lying is used and abused. In this case simply requesting reference sources and then explaining how to post URLs that aren't active links was all that was required.

There was no need to bring in the word lying. If nokiaking didn't cough up some relevant reference sources then most of us (including myself) would simply dismiss the citations as unsubstantiated beyond his personal interpretation of the Qur'an. This would be no different than many unsubstantiated claims for and against many political and religious issues discussed in this forum.

 

He already admitted he cut out the portion of the verse so let's move on. He edited a verse, claimed he didn't know what I was talking about when I called him on it and then finally admitted that yes he edited it. He got caught. He confessed. Case closed.

Now, where was the explaination for the missing section I've been asking for...

 

Didn't you invite him to the thread? They carry zero weight to apologists, but I was here when it happened as well. Contrary, apologists who demonstrate desire and motivation to wilfully deceive others carry zero weight with me.

 

I have been informed that I ain't - I mean - I am not - politically correct. I immediately came home and slapped my daughters faces. Their mother, rest in peace, would be very proud of me.

 

Well you obviously think very low of yourself then......Have some self esteem

 

Wow.....Wow....wow....

What a true face of Civilizaed world....

What a show from the Champions of Humanity.....

We, from third world, are told peole in West are very tolerant, Humanity is in their roots, Equality is their teaching....

But I really want to clap here....

What are the basics of humanity...? To respect the other's religion ?
What most of you guys are doing....Creating hate to a religion followed by over a billion people?

What is tolerance...? degrading a prophet who is more respectful than anyone else, even our parents and our loved opnes....and "ours" mean 1.25 billion muslims.....

Where are the lessons of debating issues keeping respect of both the parties....?

where is respect for a humanity when you put dust on a book more pious than any thing for a major population of the world.....?

I am Muslim, But i respect Jesus, I respect Christianity, I disagree with many things in Christinaity but i dont degrade it..why...becuase Christinaity is the religion followed by the majority of the world.....But at the same time i Expect the same thing from the Christinaity followers....

I agree, we have opposite point of views on many thinghs, we have clashes on Issues and we can have healthy debate on the issues but accusing each other, calling name and degrading the pious personalities, religion, books or followers is not acceptable at all....

Regards,
Adnan Azam

 

I hang my head in shame (No, really)

Apologies for any offence caused

 

If the truth is degrading then that's not our fault. Now, about that "mischief in the land..."