Problem with XP and IE

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  1. #1
    I have 1 GB in Ram and loads of hard drive. My computer is Pen 4 1.8 GhZ

    When ever i open to many windows in IE my computer just get so slow and i can not open more windows. They just freezze. On other computer i use i can not see that problem. 1 GB in RAM should make me open loads of windows.

    Any suggestions?
     
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  2. mad4

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    Use firefox and open new tabs instead of windows.
     
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    Yes i have firfox as well you think that will help? Does not take that much mem?
     
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    I guess tabs take less memory than new windows. Not sure though. Try turning off your antivirus as this can slow things down a lot.
     
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    Given that you have I GB RAM and a P4, I find it hard to believe that IE windows cause ur comp to freeze. Any other applications you run in the BG??
     
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    Eudora and Norton Skype Msn Yahoo google desktop
    When i start up the computer it show Free Ram that only XP is taking 500 MB from me already
    Now i have 3 rows of IE and its down to 252
     
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    Google desktop is quite heavy if you are archiving loads of documents. Norton is crap as well.
     
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    Yep Why is norton so crap ? I guess its the desktop and norton bringing me down. I remeber before i install norton the computer is so fast :(
     
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    Not sure why Norton slows things down so much. I switched to AVG free and speeded some applications up 50%.
     
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    Norton has always been this way. It is designed to completely strangle all your resources. You would have to have at least the following in your PC to be able to accomplish anything quickly with Norton installed:

    Pentium 6 Triple Core Ludicrous Threading 8.50 Ghz Twin CPU
    102400 Gb DDR7 Quad Channel Ram
    4096 Gb Quad Channel PCI Explosion Express Video Ram

    Col :)
     
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    and thats just to get you upto 56k modem speeds with norton :rolleyes:
     
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    My money is on yahoo. The yahoo IM has a bug that sometimes causes it to use more and more and more cpu time until it's using all of it. Check in the task manager what processes are running in your system.
     
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    If you are using Windows XP, you must have noticed all the fuss about Service Pack 2. It introduced an array of security "enhancements": dual direction firewall, several long overdue IE improvements, memory protection and the crippling of the TCP/IP stack.

    Hang on, how is crippling of the TCP/IP stack a security enhancement?

    Windows XP SP2 limits half-open connections (SYN) to a maximum of 10 (the previous limit was over 65,000). This is supposed to slow down certain viruses because their spreading strategy is to try to connect to a high amount of random IP numbers.

    The drawback with this connection limit is that other legitimate network intensive applications can be slowed down as well. Applications like security network scanners, peer-to-peer (P2P) applications or a combination of network applications that a power user may be using (VPN, FTP, p2p, RDP, SSH, "Firefox on steroids" and more).

    To me it sounds awfully lot like treating the symptoms instead of the cause which would have been to tighten up Windows security to prevent virus infections in the first place.

    There is a way to tell whether your daily networking activities are being affected by the patch. Each time your computer tries to establish more than 10 half-open connection, a system event will be logged in Windows. It looks something like this:

    [XP sp2 event 4226]

    EventID 4226: TCP/IP has reached the security limit imposed on the number of concurrent TCP connect attempts


    Access the event viewer by Start / Control Panel / Administrative Tools / Event Viewer / System. Sort by Event and scroll down to 4226. If you only have a few occurrences, I would not worry about it but if you see many daily occurrences it's time to look into why they are appearing.

    There are two scenarios:
    1. You computer may be infected with a virus/worm that is trying to spread
    2. You are a networking power users and your applications are being stalled by the XP SP2

    If you have anti virus software running and you scan your computer regularl ywith anti-spyware software like AdAware then case 1 is not likely.

    You can find out which process is responsible for the many half-open connections with the command "netstat -no". Half-open connections will have a state of other than ESTABLISHED. Note the PID (process id), open Task Manager and locate the process and application responsible for the half-open connections.

    The second case means that SP2 is stalling your work. An unofficial patch will modify the locked tcpip.sys and let you set the limit to whatever you wish. 50 half-open connections is a reasonable limit or you can set the limit back to 65,535 which it was before the SP2. The patch is called EventID 4226 Patcher and can be found on LVL Lord's web site: LVLlord downloads.

    Certain Microsoft updates may replace the TCPIP.SYS with a new locked version but LVLLord has been quick on updating the patch. When you run the patch, it will tell you how many connections are currently allowed.
    This article was taken from http://blog.davidkaspar.com
     
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    I can't imagine anyone anywhere ever having a problem with windows and/or IE for that matter (but don't tell the folks over in the MS section, they swear up and down by the stuff - especially getting all juiced about Vista - but I digress).

    how many is "many". 1GB won't give you a lot of leeway, especially with the Norton resource hog. I also ditched Norton long ago in favor of AVG/Zonealarm.

    Also, make sure you PC is spyware/virus free

    here's a great resource for SW recommendations

    Ad-aware & Spybot Search and Destroy are a must in my book.

    and finally be sure your hard drive has been defragmented
     
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    I trying this with samantha pia
    Raider tips now see if it works. No i do not have any virus at all. All my disk a defraged already i use all adware programs so it must be Norton then
     
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    I forgot about all that TCP/IP stuff....thanks MS for holding our hands :mad:

    I installed a "update" prior to SP2 and it put the kibosh on my FTP transfers due to the 4226 error.

    thanks samantha - great find :D
     
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    i have Norton , Spybot and Adaware i run every week. Norton Antivirus takes 3 days to sweep my disks heheh :) No virus i am sure
     
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