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President Obama today expressed support for Ukraine’s efforts to quell the eastern uprising. It came

Discussion in 'Politics & Religion' started by ST12, May 29, 2014.

  1. gworld

    gworld Prominent Member

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    LOL. You are really a moron, aren´t you? Take a look at the link address that you provide to source your BS: Radio Svoboda
    What is Svoboda?

    "The party was founded in 1991 as the Social-National Party of Ukraine (Ukrainian: Соціал-національна партія України) and acts as a populist proponent of nationalism and anti-communism. It is positioned on the right of the Ukrainian political spectrum, and some scholars classify them as far right. Scholars and journalists disagree over Svoboda's politics, some stating members of Svoboda are fascistic or anti-semitic, while other scholars and media, as well as Svoboda itself, state that its politics are nationalist, but not fascistic or antisemitic.
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    Certain political experts claim that the name of the party was an intentional reference to the Nazi Party in Germany, arguing that "Social National" is a reference to "National Socialism", the ideology claimed by the Nazi Party. Membership was restricted to ethnic Ukrainians, and for a period the party did not accept atheists or former members of the Communist Party. The party also recruited skinheads and football hooligans."

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Svoboda_(political_party)
     
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    I understand what this resource is much better than you, gworld. A moron you are, my friend, if you think Ukrainian nationalists rule Ukraine or form public opinion. They simply are the first resource to publish these collections, because fighting lies of RusTV is one of their honorable tasks. I could wait for about 3 hours and publish this material with a link to another portal. Would it change THE UNDENIABLE FACT THAT RusTV uses pics of murders, bombardments and other crimes and disasters from all over the world taken decades ago and states these are taken in Ukraine recently? THEY ARE LYING AND ONLY MORONS BELIEVE THEM. Therefore, gworld, you are a moron.

    You can check these fotos yourself with ease or should I teach you the way to find the source of the picture on the Internet?

    As for Svoboda - they gained less than 2% of votes and if you judge a nation by several politicians from a party getting 2% of votes on the elections - you are a bouble facepalm moron. I have nothing more to say.
     
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    #63
    As someone who is exposed to form his opinion by Neo-Nazi propaganda, you keep promising us that you have nothing more to say, but just keep coming back and post another Neo-Nazi nonsense. ;):)
     
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    Oh my gosh, you are just an unbelieveable moron. The facts are:
    1) A picture or train crush in Canada is taken some time ago
    2) Russian propaganda takes this picture, calls it "RUINS OF SLAVYANSK AFTER BOMBARDMENT OF UKRAINIAN ARMY" and spreads it
    3) You believe this crap, because you are either lazy or an idiot that cannot track the source of the picture mentioned. Should I teach you how to use Internet for something else but watching porn and being moron on forums?
    4) Some people do the work for you, find original picture and disprove lies of Russian propaganda
    5) You do not believe them, because you consider them neo-nazi due to several cases of public idiotizm exposed by several members of the party.

    repeat to eternity

    In that case, according to your idiotic logic, England is a country of redhead drunkards masturbating on the crossroads - I've seen one with my own eyes, which means all Englishmen are like this. America is a country of bush bearded gays with thick beer bellies - I've seen one on the parade in San Francisco on Youtube, which - acccording to your idiotic logic - makes the whole country the same to him.

    HOW THE HELL YOU CANNOT SEE THE SIMPLE FACT THAT THIS WEBSITE DOES NOT MAKE THEIR NEONAZI PROPAGANDA!!!
    THEIR TASK IS TO DISPROVE RUSSIAN FASCIST PROPAGANDA TO OPEN EYES OF IDIOTS LIKE YOU! They do not ever use words like Gayrope, black@ss American nigg@rs, French hoes, Austrian germafrodite Conchita Wurst, etc. Quite contrary, these words are actively used in RusTV news daily. And you protect Russians and think Ukrainians are not right?


    Screw you, you are nothing more than a pile of crap in that case. Either open your eyes and stop being an idiot or shut your mouth.

    Definition of a troll: uses absurd reasons, ignores obvious truth, when lacks facts - begins abusing the source of opponent's facts and opponent in person.

    You are merely a troll, gworld and should not be taken seriously. Farewell.
     
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    #65
    If you don´t like to be called on it, then you should not join a party which is made up of neo-Nazi and football hooligans and use their website as the source of your BS. ;):)
    I think this is your 10th farewell, are you sure you are going this time, or are you coming back and post more BS? :)

    P.S. Please come back, I will miss laughing at you.
    You are as funny as Psaki, they should make a new one #SaveH0stZealot

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    #66
    I really enjoy talking with you, it is as interesting as communicating with a degenerate. You never know what he will say next, because there is no logic in his words.

    If you still think I post BS because I cite radiosvoboda.org, which DOES NOT SPREAD ANY NAZIST PROPAGANDA, here is the link of the SAME PICS from another site:

    http://cripo.com.ua/?sect_id=10&aid=176363

    I will enjoy your efforts of connecting this website with neonazi also. Or efforts on disproving the facts mentioned in the article. Why don't you do that? Because you can't. 5-minute-long googling confirms each and every picture fact from that article = confirms MY words. And confirms you are a moron, a filthy liar and a duchebag. You attack the source instead of disproving the article. What an idiot.

    I can also cite many other sources (youtube will be enough) with many RusTV news and lies about events in Ukraine, Europe and China.

    For example, Putin signed a gas contract with China for selling 40 billion tons of gas annually (China produces 100 billion tons itself and uses only 30 of them, selling the rest; China uses coal mostly, in case you did not know - so they even do not need that gas) Ukraine bought 50 billion tons, Europe buys 600 billion tons a year. The price is $350 dollars per ton (Ukraine paid $268, Europe pays $385-485). This contract requires Russia to invest $60 billion in creation a gas pipe system in SIberia. The final blow was removing the tax for mineral resource usage, meaning Russia will have no profit at all from selling that gas. Does this seem a great victory of Putin to you? Yet it is shown this way in RussiaToday news, they state this is the greatest victory of foreign diplomacy, a worthy response to EU and US sanctions already withdrawing 200 billion USD from Russia.
    Why would he sign it then?
    1. He desperately wanted to show Western countries he can form another alliances, not only with Europeans (the result was quite contrary, he appeared to be loser unable to get good quotas)
    2. He begged Chinese military to give back the secret Russian spy satellite that fell to the field of a Chinese farmer after Proton-M space missile exploded 5 minutes after launch 2 days earlier. In case you do not understand the connection, this satellite has all Russian military network codes to be able to recognise Ruissian military bases, space and aircraft and other objects. The fact it fell to Chinese field means Chinese hackers had two days to hack and decode it and now China knows the exact location of ALL RUSSIAN MILITARY OBJECTS.

    This also leads to a simple conclusion Russia will have to spend about $50 billion in a couple of weeks to update ALL software and codes of their military forces. And keep in mind that trials are to take place on JUKOS holding of Hodorkovskij, oligarh and Putin's enemy #1. Estimated price to be paid by Russia after these trials is another $100 billion, as Stokholm international trial is very unlikely to decide in Putin's favor due to recent events. China may use this time to strike and he tried to make an alliance with them.

    Many popular Russian opposition politicians like Nemzov and navalnyj already said "this contract means selling Siberia to China and robbing Russia"
    Yet Putin's propaganda says this contract is a great achievement for Putin's regime and Russia.

    Now let's sum it up - Russia had about $600 billion in foreign currency, shares and gold stock in January. They lost about $200 billion after sanctions, will lose $100 in a couple of weeks and will have to urgently spend another $50 or their military forces render useless. What does it tell to ANY logically thinking person? Russian is on a brink of economical default, social catastrophe and state collapse. If Russians realize it - Putin will not live another day. Thus said, Russian news yell about Ukraine, junta, neo-nazis, pravij sector, peaceful separatists and other bullsh1t instead of saying that Russia lost 2/3 of it's wealth in 5 months due to Putin's affaires in Crimea and SE Ukraine. And you believe this bullsh1t?

    By the way, you can also easily find on Youtube the speech of CHinese embassador at Saint-Petersburg Energy forum this May. I will try to cite it by memory: "Russia has a plenty of empty space in SIberia and China has a plenty of working hands eager to work there. Combining these factors will greatly benefit us". Pay attention US, not BOTH OUR COUNTRIES, only US - CHINA. This means China is going to take Siberia the way Putin took Crimea. Just because they can do it. How soon will it happen - we will see. But this immediately clears the reasons for Chinese to sign that gas contract they do not really need:
    1. They invest into infrastructure of their soon-to-be territories
    2. They suck money from Russia forcing it to build gas pipes China will own
    3. They show the world THEY are the new superpower (just as you said, indeed) and Russia is merely a third world state, gas station of Europe, like some American senator said (you can find the citation if you wish).
    Things like this fill me with joy as I can analize the course of events and predict inevitable fall of the colossus with legs of clay that Russia is. Putin leads his country to isolation, loss of power, economical and social catasrophe. And he distracts attention of his country by yelling about neonazis in Ukraine and all other sh1t like this. And you believe this crap. Hilarious, gworld, it seems you are a moron. However, Ukrainians die as we speak and it fills my heart with sorrow, And you continue saying BS about me, my native country and my people. This fill me with anger.

    p.s. I come back to destroy all your crap and enjoy it. My final farewell will include reporting all your posts as abuse and requesting banning you. The only thing stopping me is that you have 600 likes, which means you said many reasonable things before and people liked it. This forces me to think this was done by your Dad and you are just a 6-grader using his account while Dad is on vacation. I disprove each of your statements and several other people do it. However, you continue violating forum rules, lying here and abusing me. It seems you are testing my patience.

    You are stubborn as a mule and I enjoy hitting your @ss as mule's ass. However, mule is able to change direction after severe beating. It seems you lack this skill and will live and die without understanding the burden of your stupidity.

    I really like you do not argue with all 5 points of the list above, because I say pure truth and all you can do is trolling me. As I said - you are nothing but a troll.
     
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    HostZellot "... ARMY DOES NOT WAGE WAR IN UKRAINE NOW. ARMY TROOPS ARE GARRISONED ALONG THE Russian BORDER AND NOT USED IN SE REGIONS. THIS WAS STATED MULTIPLE TIMES. .... "

    The attack helicopters and SU aircraft bombing Slavyansk and Luhansk are probably Russian??? Give me a break. Actually stop lying.

    Luhansk. After Air Strike. Part 3 ...
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WLLS-rqPDfI

    Luhansk. After Air Strike. Part 4


    Luhansk. After Air Strike. Part 5







     
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    Hurray, our #SaveH0stZealot campaign worked and he is back so we can laugh more at him. Because you have already said so many farewells, can we ask when your final farewell (meaning not coming back) will be? I hope no time soon, but in case you are serious, we need to find another clown. In the mean time I ask all the members to join in #SaveH0stZealot, the Neo Nazi clown campaign. ;):)
     
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    As I said, typical troll. You cannot disprove the facts I mention, so you start offending me. Good luck, I care little on your opinion

    I already posted a video disproving this. THIS WAS LAUNCH OF TERRORIST AA MISSILE. The reasons are already explained also, see above.

    Stop being an idiot, ST12.
     
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    That's typical language people who are losing an argument use to exit it. I know this cnn and fox news language. One of my Ukrainians friends went even further than you did. He stated the videos were fake. (So much is the hatred for Russia, that they will say the white is black and black is white if they only can damage Russia. Makes them look immature grown ups.)
    Manpad AA cannot cause such an extensive damage on the admin. building and on the ground.
    There is a huge difference between manpad AA missile and S300 which could cause that type of damage. But the defenders against the Kiev fascists and radicals don't have such an AA system.

    No serious source in the west reported that the killings were result of a strike by an AA.
     
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    There is no need to disprove a BS. ;):)
    Are you saying farewell again? What farewell number is this? I have lost the count, but I don´t want our resident clown to leave so I ask all members to join in #SaveH0stZealot, the Neo Nazi clown campaign. :)
     
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    The only BS here is your posts. I said everything already. You are either an idiot or a lazyass troll, unable to track the source of the information you receive.

    I repeat once again, should I teach you how to use Internet for something more than trolling?
     
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    LOL. The good news is that our #SaveH0stZealot, the Neo Nazi clown campaign is working, he is coming back again and again after each farewell. ;):)
     
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    No serious source in the west confirmed it was airstrike of Ukrainian army either.

    I will briefly refresh your memory.

    In March, after Revolution of Dignity and disgraceful fleeing of Yanukovosh, RusTV began spreading lies about "neo-nazists of Pravyj Sector, Kievan junta, threats to the lives of Russian-speaking citizens" etc. You can rewise the history of Crimean annexation and see the initial mess was caused by "bloody hordes of Pravyj Sector nazists rushing South to slaughter Crimeans". This BS was based on a fact that Crimean Berkut police force was stopped on their way back from Kiev in Kremenchug by local Euromajdan activists with requests to disarm and show pledge of loyalty to Ukrainian peoplem as Berkut forces from Western and Northern regions did. IMHO, a stupid idea.

    Commanding officer of Crimean Berkut gave order to shoot in the air and activists fled, Berkuts continued their way home - THIS WAS THE INITIAL MESSAGE< INTERVIEW IS ON YOUTUBE. However, later on Russian propaganda took several sentences out of context and proclaimed Berkut had to fight their way back home and had a dogfight in Kremenchug. Crimean Berkut is loyal to Yanukovosh, so they did not disprove it - and now their wages are 4 times higher than average Ukrainian salaries. They earned their 30 silver coins.

    This lie was widely discussed in Russian propaganda and was one of the main reasons for deploying huge Russian armed force in Crimea (or you still believe Putin about "Crimean self-defense troops" - who later acknowledged these "green men" were Russian troops with Russian weaponry, battle ships, aviation and equipment?). After the so-called "referendum" that was not accepted by majority of countries worldwide, Crimea was annexed by Putin. The battle for Crimea was lost for now, the Ukrainian war was just beginning.

    I explained the reasons for SE bloodshed several times already. Here they are briefly:

    1) To supply Crimea Putin desperately needs a land coridoor through SE Ukraine, because bridge at Kerch cannot be built and EVERYBODY knows it, yet 350 billion USD will be taken from RF budget - stolen.

    2) Slavyansk sits on the biggest deposit of shale gas in Europe and the day of beginning using this gas will be the last day of Russia, because EU will by it, not the twice more expensive Russian gas.

    3) Putin's nuclear missiles need to be restored and maintained in Dnepropetrovsk, engines, aircrafts and tanks are produced in Kharkiv and Zaporizhya, the biggest warfs are in Nikolaev and Sevastopol, Odessa is the biggest trading port of former USSR and it will allow supply Pridnestrovya anclave. He needs these regions or his military power will fade in a year.

    Amounts of goods smuggled through Ukraine to avoid paying customs is considered to be at least 50 billion USD annually. The one who controls Donetsk and Odessa - controls this smuggling route.

    These are the reasons for beginning the slaughter of Ukraine. Please, leave fairy tales about "bloody nazists from Pravyj Sector" to Dmitry Kiselev, who was called liar multiple times. Actually, he lies about Ukraine with every his word during the last 5 years or so. When 200 000+ thousands people were protesting in Kiev, he called it "a paid by Americans crowd of hooligans no more than 500 people strong". On the opposite, when in April 500 pro-russian protesters gathered near Lenin monument in Kharkiv, he called it "a huge meeting of real patriots, involving dosens of thousands". You can compare the photos yourself and see HE LIES AND I SAY THE TRUTH.

    Let's move on. Lugansk and Donetsk regions have total population about 6 million people. Rinat Akhmetov is the unofficial king of the region, owning nearly all heavy industry and mining operations there. Another leader of Regional party, Efremov, controls railroads and police = controls smuggling. All population of Donbass lives under their rule for 30 years already.

    Putin contacts them with offers to secede their regions from Ukraine and give them full power in these regions. The facts of Akhmetov and Efremov flights to Moscow were confirmed in March. Days after this public unrest begins and "DNR" and "LNR" appear. The initial messages are the same - "bloody Pravyj Sector is advancing East to slaughter all Russian-speaking citizens". Manifestations, capturing City Halls, killing Ukrainians (deputate Andrey Rybak) begin. Akhmetov and Putin say they have no connection to this, this is "peaceful protest of separatists". Akhmetov is in Kiev now, by the way, begging "junta" for protection from his own creations. He lost his power and business and may lose his life also, just because he knows too much and Putin can order to silence him. I will not be surprised if this happens.

    However, Ukraine was already aware of the scenario and begins acting at once, forming National guards and deploying army troops along the borders in Sumi and Kharkiv regions. This cuts off the flow of provocateurs and instead of a full scale civil war Putin receives 2 minor locations. However, he needs the situation to be destabilized till June, when Russia takes head in UN. He needs reasons to invade, he needs pictures of burning cities and mass murders of civilians to prove military invasion is merely a "peacekeeping operation"

    Unluckily for him, situation gets out of control. Local drunkards and narcomans like Ponomarev receive shooters and begin acting as kings of life - robbbing, killing and raping everyone around. This is their point of view about "liberty from junta" - freedom to kill, rob and rape. They capture the mission of EU observers and from now on they are not "peaceful protesters", they are terrorists. Fullstop.

    Putin has to send in Kossacks (famous Babaj), trained Chechen killers - videos are on youtube - and true "stars" like "Strelok" Girkin, "Bes" Bezler and "Abver". Kiev begins full-scale ATO in responce, which goes on with low degree of success til now.

    Let's take a look from a bit another point of view. Russian propaganda says 97% of Donbass people voted on 11th of May to become independent. Kiselev says these people are ready to fight Kiev and Babaj promises to take the whole Ukraine, kill all Ukrainians and lead his mighty army to New York - video is here - . He says they captured Obama's spy and killed him. poor Nigerian Student of Donetsk university (

    However, where are the mighty hordes of fighters for the Holy Rus? 6 million people, 97% are against Kiev and only 5 000 fighters divided in 15 large groups, each robbing their own city. Ponomarev said they were training an army of 27 000 patriots of Rus. (Ponomarev was executed yesterday for stealing Russian support money, overdosing cocaine and raping 12-years-old girl - news are on open sources, videos are on youtube). THis army still does not exist, despite 40 KAMAZ trucks of weaponry sent from Russia. ( by the way, will you argue with the widely highlighted IN TRUSTED WESTERN SOURCES fact, that Russia supplies terrorist with weapons? Or do you think they bought minethrowers, AA missiles and AMC in the nearest METRO supermarket? Probably in the one they robbed to the ground in Donetsk? Or did Ukrainian aviation do it?)

    The key word is ROBBING. Drunkards and narcomans received weapons but did not receive true goal or military support like in Crimea. Pravyj Sector was not ever seen in SE Ukraine - their leader Dmitry Yarosh declared they even had no intention of going there.

    And Donbass people realized they are slaughtered like cattle. By "peaceful separatists", who were supposed to protect them from "bloody pravyj sector". ANd they began fleeing - NOT TO RUSSIA, KEEP THIS IN MIND!! ALL REFUGEES FLED TO UKRAINE!!! WHy is it so, ST12 ? Explain me, please?

    And what should Putin do in this case? He needs to change the public opinion. Did you hear about #vizitkaYarosha. gworld and st12? The so-called "assault of the bloody Pravyj Sector" on peaceful blockpost of separatists? There was shooting in the night, and in the morning there were 3 dead local militiamen (who could not name the killers, of course), 2 SUV's burned to the ground (with Lviv numbers absolutely undamaged by fire), MG-42 from the WWII and ... untouched by fire vizit card of Pravyj Sector leader Dmitry Yarosh!

    It was such an obvious fake (but three people died) - but Russian propaganda still repeats Pravyj sector attacked first.

    Then there was the first ATO round in Mariupol, when Ukrainian soldier was accused of killing an unarmed pro-Russian protester (yet the full video is available on Youtube, where it is clearly seen that the "victim" is alive, somebody checks his pulse and it turns out IT IS ALSO A FAKE FOR RusTV)

    Then another SUV stopped in front of a bus stop IN THE CENTER OF SLAVYANSK and 2 killers shot dead 7 people on that stop, including 2 children. RusTV claimed it was done by Pravij Sector. Uh huh. In the middle of the city surrounded with terrorists' blockposts. Just another fake and slaughter of 7 more Ukrainians.

    Then, at long last, we come to the case you mention. Do you really think aircraft NURS missile has such small explosion to damage only 1 window and leave other undamaged? Should I show you real videos of NURS hits from Youtube or you are able to find these yourself? Trust me, a building hit by NURS stands no more. And there we see black marks of smoke, destroyed air conditioner unit and ... undamaged glass several windows away... AA missile could do it, NURS could not.

    About these dead bodies. FIrst - there would be only bloody dust after NURS hit, no bloody bodies. Second. Do you really trust somebody was just walking nearby and filmed it all occasionally?Third. I posted link to a video from street surveillance camera with the explosion moment. PEOPLE WERE JUST WALKING AROUND. CARS WERE MOVING. NOBODY RAN FROM AN ATTACKING PLANE.

    I simply follow the official point of view of US, EU and Ukraine in ALL of my statements. There were 2 launches from stationary AA missile launcher. One hit the bus stop with people, the other captured heat emission from air conditioner unit and hit City Hall. Terrorists were given the weapon but did not have enough training to use it. They were either ordered to shoot this bus stop with people (to create another provocation and another picture for RusTV, the one you posted) - or did it due to lack of skill with this missile launcher. But REAL CITIZENS OF LUGANSK POSTED MULTIPLE DISPROOFS, SHOWING THE REAL STATE OF EVENTS. These videos, photos and explanations are available in Вконтакте and on Youtube.

    I say truth, no matter how much you do not want to see it. There is no civil war in SE Ukraine. People there want to live in peace and without Putin's protection. People with black-orange stripes are called COLORADS, just like potato pests. And should be slaughtered the same way, without mercy. Because people of Donbass are dying daily from their hands. The true enemies of Donbass people are their own police and customs guards, letting armed Russian and Chechen killers to enter the country and bring death to Ukrainians. And be killed for it in response.

    COLORADS make fire positions on the rooftops of schools, hospitals, in living quarters and other building that provide higher ground. From there they shoot ATO troops and Ukrainian troops shoots in responce. Of course their fire damages these building and leads to losses of civilian populkation. But tell me, who is guilty of that? ATO? Or maybe COLORADS and Putin himself?

    And the last one. Remember I mentioned Kharkiv? My friend lives there. There is no COLORADS in Kharkiv. Avakov's assistant, Baluta, became Kharkiv region governor in April. He equipped all garrisoned troops and strengthened the border with Russia. He also promised 100% retirement, trial and lifetime terms to ALL police forces in Kharkiv in case any COLORAD manifestation captures the City Hall or any other act of terror occures. It worked. on the 8th of May 200 COLORAD provocateurs were arrested and huge stocks of firearms were captured.
    NOBODY KILLS UKRAINIANS IN KHARKIV. IT IS NOT BOMBED BY THE ARMY. PRAVYJ SECTOR DOES NOT SLAUGHTER RUSSIAN-SPEAKING PEOPLE THERE. Think about it, gworld and st12.

    The only enemies of DonbassPeople are traitors from police and customs, local drunkards receiving weapons, Russian and Chechen mercenaries.
    BY the way, Russia rushed their army to Ukrainian border today, because Ukrainian army closed the border from their side.

    I described you the whole picture. I do not doubt gworld will take some sentences out of context and call me neonazi once again. I am just sick and tired of you repeating lies of Russian propaganda. All the world said these are lies, yet you repeat them. Really, you are deeply mistaken.
     
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    KIEV, June 16 (RIA Novosti) – Russian special services may stand behind the events at the Russian embassy in Kiev, Ukraine’s Interior Ministry said Monday.

    "We believe that the result of these events could also be a clever provocation by Russian special services," the adviser to the Ukraine’s Interior Minister Anton Gerashchenko said at a briefing in Kiev.

    "We do not rule out that the very idea of protesting in front of the Russian embassy was planted by the Russian special services," Gerashchenko added.

    Gerashchenko noted that Ukrainian specialists are now examining such a possibility. In particular, they are trying to find out who had sent a message with a call to go to the Russian embassy in Kiev.

    On June 14, scores of demonstrators gathered outside the Russian embassy in Kiev. The crowd tore the Russian flag from the embassy building and broke the pavement. Rocks and smoke grenades were thrown at the building. The protesters also hurled a Molotov cocktail at the embassy, causing a minor fire which was extinguished. The police did nothing to stop the crowd, according to local media outlets....

    http://en.ria.ru/world/20140616/190...y-Stand-Behind-Attack-on-Russian-Embassy.html


    Only HostZealot and the other Russophobes will believe in these lies coming from .............. Kiev of course. The hatred in them won't let them sleep well at night if they don't manifest it even for a day.
     
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    So, 200 trucks with RUSSIAN and CHECHEN mercenaries crossed Ukrainian border from Russia and we should remain silent?

    And Russian embassy building was covered in green paint and eggs and several cars were demolished and I am russofobe?

    What if Mexico invaded US without declaring war, because 100 million US citizens alongside the southern border speak Spanish as well as English and Spanish is not the official language of the US?

    Wouldn't US citizens show their protest by humiliating Mexico embassy? I think the building would be raised to the ground, not only thrown eggs into.

    Once again, I disprove your BS and you just keep offending me. Become mature at last, ST12.
     
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    Obama can do it on his own, lol. Just cause a pres says it doesn't make it so.
     
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    Well after looking at what Ukraine's airstrikes did and are doing to SE Ukraine, more will be coming ..... The above figures you gave are way too few for the ongoing crimes Kiev commits against its own people.... well they cannot be your own if they are treated like terrorists.

    Your last sentence looks childish. If truth offends you improve you value system.

    Like I said to my friends what I think would happen to Ukraine.
    I was right on Crimea.
    Now, if Kiev continues its killings and destruction of SE Ukraine it is only a matter of time before they split completely from Ukraine.
    Who wants to live together with fascists, radicals, and haters?
     
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    Are you sure your name is not Dmitry Kiselev? You gave a feerical example of calling black white. I really cannot force you to change your opinion. AS a matter of fact I do not care much. I only care about my mother country's fate, not about some dude on a forum that refuses to accept he is totally wrong. Ukraine DOES NOT NEED RUSSIAN SAVIORS! GO THE F1CK AWAY!

    In case you are dumb or blind I will repeat this once more:

    Remember I mentioned Kharkiv? My friend lives there. There is no COLORADS in Kharkiv. Avakov's assistant, Baluta, became Kharkiv region governor in April. He equipped all garrisoned troops and strengthened the border with Russia. He also promised 100% retirement, trial and lifetime terms to ALL police forces in Kharkiv in case any COLORAD manifestation captures the City Hall or any other act of terror occures. It worked. on the 8th of May 200 COLORAD provocateurs were arrested and huge stocks of firearms were captured. Now everything is quiet there.
    NOBODY KILLS UKRAINIANS IN KHARKIV. IT IS NOT BOMBED BY THE ARMY. PRAVYJ SECTOR DOES NOT SLAUGHTER RUSSIAN-SPEAKING PEOPLE THERE. Think about it, gworld and st12. And compare it to the lies you believe.

    I ONLY REPEAT THE POSITION OF ALL WORLD LEADERS, THE FACTS ALL CALL TRUTH. YOU REPEAT RusTV LIES. I will let it be like this, you seem to be hopeless.
     
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    Your hatred for Russia is all over your posts. You are biased, and your statements are one sided. Millions of SE Ukrainians don't share your views and statements.

    The fact that Kiev does not want to sit and talk with SE Ukrainians to solve the problems peacefully like the smart people do, but instead sends their fascist army of criminals show that Kiev is ruled by criminals itself.

    Many times Russia has called for a cease fire, but Kiev don't want it. Actually their masters don't want it.
    They are trying to provoke Russia to interfere so Obama can arm twist the EU on not doing business with Russia and thus to weaken Russia.

    You guys are fools to believe that Obama and Merkel have your well-being at their hearts.
     
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