Prayers for Israel

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  1. GTech

    GTech Rob Jones for President!

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    #41
    Are you talking about the Jews, or the Palestinians? Sounds like thousands of years of Jewish history summed up in a short paragraph.

    Probably the Palis though, huh? Jews are evil :rolleyes:
     
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  2. yo-yo

    yo-yo Well-Known Member

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    #42
    If you stopped attacking everything I said as hatred for jews for 30 seconds and read what I posted you might see exactly who I'm talking about. :rolleyes:
     
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  3. GTech

    GTech Rob Jones for President!

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    #43
    That's what I thought, the Palestinians. Just wanted to make sure...again :rolleyes:
     
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  4. yo-yo

    yo-yo Well-Known Member

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    #44
    WTF is wrong with you? Seriously.. what did they do to you in the Army? It should be in a movie or something. :rolleyes:

    When I said "PEOPLE" that's exactly what I meant.
     
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  5. GTech

    GTech Rob Jones for President!

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    #45
    Ah, so you didn't mean any *particular* people, like those starving or living in poverty. Gotcha ;)

    The Army doesn't teach wussification and tolerance for terrorists. That's why our views differ so greatly.
     
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  6. Rick_Michael

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    #46
    Read the article in my post.

    http://newsbusters.org/node/5477

    Muchless visit yahoo questions whom basically highlighted Al Gore assertion of the enviroment as pure fact ie yahoo questions set-up a site specifically asserting his views on the enviroment as 'right'. There was no debate on it, he was just 'right'... 'now let's fix it' sort of thinking. Was disguistingly bias actions on behalf of yahoo staff.

    If you read the article you'll find out that google loves the left, and thus so would yahoo. Last I heard they are big financially with each other...something like 10% google stock was/is owned by yahoo.
     
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  7. yo-yo

    yo-yo Well-Known Member

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    #47
    No the word people doesn't mean a specific group of people, do we need to get an english teacher in here for you? :cool:
     
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    #48
    As far as the whole arab area goes (other than Jordan), don't you think that it is more of their own government's issue....ie don't you blame their government more than 'outsiders'? I'm assuming you don't blame the US or Israel for the poor lifestlyles of the majority of people in that area?
     
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    GTech Rob Jones for President!

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    #49
    Right, right! Gotcha ;)
     
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  10. yo-yo

    yo-yo Well-Known Member

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    #50
    I don't know about every government or history of country in the "arab area"... so I don't really know. But my best guess is that there isn't one "source" or "thing" to blame.

    I was talking about people in general, why do they turn to murder, violence and crime? There's usually at least one of three of the following:
    1. They have nothing to lose (they live in poverty, they're starving)
    2. Religion (and brainwashing)
    3. Greed
     
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    #51
    The reason I asks these things, is because I know under all you say you morally feel codemnation for other people/governments/organizations OTHER than the US governement and Israel. It would help if you actually spoke of that sometimes as well, it would honestly make you appear as you ARE rather than what people seem to perceive you as.

    Do I make sense?

    ps...you listen to way too much Tupac...
     
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  12. yo-yo

    yo-yo Well-Known Member

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    #52
    Sure I could sit here all day with Gtech and Henny and talk about how bad terrorists are... but I think it's common sense.. what's the need?

    What's more important is trying to show that 1 side can't be blamed for the 100% of the problem. There's just as much fault on both sides. Everyone has done wrong and until they're willing to admit and correct themselves... the violence will continue.

    There's no such thing as too much ;), he touched a lot of people in his short time here.
     
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    #53
    Ah, the usaull both-sides-are-responibel-propaganda. Tell me, isn't it possible for one aggressive part to take all the blame. I mean, if your older brother tries to kill you and you responds by defending yourself, isn't he 100% of the problem?
     
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  14. Blogmaster

    Blogmaster Blood Type Dating Affiliate Manager

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    #54
    unfortunately it's more than just a bit, Jews are expected to be victimized I guess. That seems to be the attitude, especially from the high powered European nations with 100s of years of a history of abusing Jews, confiscating their possessions, scape goating and what have you. Yeah, how dare a Jew defend himself ... what is this world coming to if that happens :rolleyes:
     
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    DomainMagnate Illustrious Member

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    #55
    it's more like you kick your brother in a butt and he comes after you and punishes you, but you do it it again and again, he tried to pursuade you to stop that, but you keep talking crap about how you can defeat him and how you have the right to kick him in a butt every time you fancy and all your little friends support you and say your brother is evil and therefore must e kicked .. till he can't suffer that any more and then he's going to punish you really hard.. :( and then you say he's soo evil and you like had no idea this is going to happen and you're not going to give up and you will continue fighting till you win..
     
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    yo-yo Well-Known Member

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    #56
    All the while you turn a blind eye; and refuse to recognize that they've just killed 60+ civillians.

    Is that how "self defense" works... they capture two soldiers; in turn you murder 60+ civilians? Sounds reasonable. :rolleyes:
     
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    DomainMagnate Illustrious Member

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    #57
    over 10 Israelis were killed and more than 150 wounded from Hezollah attacks, Hezbollah use highly populated areas to store their weapons and hide behind civilians and Lebanese government supports them, what is it if not a war? :confused:
     
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    #58
    One of the most sensible things I have read.

    The response is not proportional or fair for those dead people - but it is difficult to fight an enemy who does not stand before you without causing "collateral" damage.

    On the other side of the coin, only an insane person would stand before an enemy who has the military might to destroy you in an instant. Better to fight from a far, hitting the only targets you can.

    This battle is about two sides fighting for what they believe is right, regardless of the civilian damage it will cause.

    One side tries not to be condemned by the western international community. The other side tries not to be condemned by its supporters.
     
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    yo-yo Well-Known Member

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    #59
    In the US, if a known bank robber and murderrer is known to be hiding in an apartment building by the police, do they drop a bomb on the entire apartment building killing the all the innocent people inside to get the bank robber? :cool:
     
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    #60
    yo-yo,

    I think that one thing that would help you understand the dynamics in that region is getting a pick into how Palestinian govt has traditionally treated (brainwashed) its own people causing poverty and inciting hatred against Israel and violence in generations to come instead of tryinng to resolve whatever conflicts come their way diplomatically.

    Check out this DVD http://www.honestreporting.com/relentless/new_version/ or at least the trailer on that site.

    And spend a few minutes browsing articles on http://www.honestreporting.com .
     
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