Prayers for Israel

Discussion in 'Politics & Religion' started by Blogmaster, Jul 13, 2006.

  1. Blogmaster

    Blogmaster Blood Type Dating Affiliate Manager

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    #481
    What's sad is how a lot of that gets passed on to the younger generations, especially in the above stated France and Germany. You haven't seen racism and hatred til you've been there.
     
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  2. iatbm

    iatbm Prominent Member

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    #482
    We can start counting in 19th century if you want :D
    I guess you don't know your own european history ?
     
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    GTech Rob Jones for President!

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    #483
    Yeah, decades is probably a bit optimistic. It's happening now. It reminds me of the Borg in Star Trek. "Resistence is futile, you will be assimilated." Europe is being assimilated in a most rapid manner by islam. Granted, this time they didn't do it with the sword, but rather immigration and exploiting the liberal minds that make victims out of those that would do them the most harm.

    I honestly don't know what the deal is with leftists hatred of Jews. I don't understand the "general" hatred they've endured. I asked someone once, who I thought would be able to tell me, and the best they could come up with is that they are God's chosen people.
     
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    yo-yo Well-Known Member

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    #484
    Why they're being overrun by muslims the US is being overrun by mexicans. Things could look alot different in the US in a few decades as well.
     
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    lorien1973 Notable Member

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    #485
    Then wrap your mind around this. Leftists in this country generally suppport leftists in Europe, right? Given the obvious trend in Europe towards anti-semitism, why do jews support leftists here a majority of the time? *boggles*
     
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    lorien1973 Notable Member

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    #486
    mexicans don't generally go blowing up crap because they don't like (see french riots). they at least work and try (well most of them) to make a living here. Through out Europe (see Sweden, et al) muslims are creating little societies for themselves apart from everyone else so they don't have to mingle.
     
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    yo-yo Well-Known Member

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    #487
    That's true.. but if/when the US becomes majority mexican, minority white, there will be some major changes.
     
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    #488
    Cheaper tequila? more siestas? dancing beans? more speedy gonzalez cartoons? :p
     
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    iatbm Prominent Member

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    I will answer your question about jews in Europe and why there is much anti-semitism in Europe !

    In middle-ages in Europe jews were merchants and bankirs and money loaners so eventually they become rich and even richer than some nobles and they were loaning money to nobles then. So it was the easiest for nobles to demonize them through propaganda (peasants didn't really think with their heads in middle-ages) and eventually even expel them from some countries (lands of varoious noble houses). Nobles thought that bankir business and merchants was not honorable work. Eventually they became hated because everyone owed them money with big interests. Also you have to consider religious aspect of the problems because catholics were constantly accusing them to be responsible for Jesus crucifiction.

    A little confused I know but sure you will understand :D
     
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    yo-yo Well-Known Member

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    #490
    No...i was thinking more along the lines of ... more racism, more riots, maybe another war.
     
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    iatbm Prominent Member

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    #491
    yo-yo : ye-ye you wish huh
     
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    #492
    I know what you were thinking of. The ability of spanish radio to get the illegals riled up for those riots back in may or whatever (and the speed at which it happended) was shocking and surprising. Illegal immigration is a huge issue - too bad, everyone confuses immigration (legal) with immigration (illegal) and those oppposed to enforcing the laws are somehow xenophobic racists.
     
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    #493
    iatbm,

    Thank you for the response. Yes, I understand what you wrote completely and was not aware of this history. I have heard "notions" about Jews being rich, etc. So the hatred comes from a group of people who worked hard, an honest living, and helped those less fortunate with loans? Interesting.

    I have never understood, either, how some Christians derive a hatred for Jews because they killed Jesus. Christians believe Christ died on the cross for our sins. Without this, the greatest sacrifice of all history, Christians would not be able to go to heaven. Jesus knew his destiny. He knew who would betray him. It was destiny. The Jews had to kill him, so that those who believe would have a chance to go to heaven.
     
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    yo-yo Well-Known Member

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    #494
    I was also talking about white-america's proven track record of racism and intolerance. Certain 'people' aren't going to be comfortable being the 'minority' in 'their' own country...
     
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    #495
    I just to like to add a few details to what iatbm has already said as far as the economical aspect of anti-semitism. Christians had traditionally believed that charging interest from another Christian is a sin. Yet there is such a thing as supply and demand in a market economy... so the Jews were there to fill the need of landing money. Besides that, Jews were rather spread out around the world but tried to maintain trade routes between different territories. It also helped that they spoke the same language despite the distance between them.
     
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    GTech Rob Jones for President!

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    #496
    Thanks for the additional information Liminal. Interesting...I've sought rational answers to justify the hatred of Jews for many years, and while I can't see any of these as justification, it's interesting to see where the history of "hating Jews" comes from. Definitely learned some things today, thanks both!
     
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    Mia R.I.P. STEVE JOBS

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    #497
    I think you are confusing "liberal America" with this so called "white America".
     
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    #498
    I didn't know all those rednecks waving around confederate flags were liberals. Thanks for the info :D
     
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    #500
    I have no problem with America slowly changing to a mixed race of people. I do have a problem with the wholesale changing of America over two generation or so...even if it's white people from foreign countries.

    As a nation, America can't be radically changed era from era...that's been a recipe for civil war in history. Changes must be deliberate, reasoned and slow.
     
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