PR7 Domain for sale.

Would you buy from someone who says this:

"An Ad on PR7 selling at eBay is $70/month get 20 clients and make 20 X 70 / month $14,00 USD."

 

I noticed the url to the auction was removed.

tom

 

Hello,

Firstly I don't think most of you understand how fake PR works? This domain was recenly expired, i`m not claiming it has any backlinks. A fake site can be caught in 1 second by viewing the cache of the site. I was guilty if i was cloacking, I was guilty had i re-directed the domain to a PR7 and claiming it was with backlinks, I posted the URL so the buyer can make their own choice. PR7 is surely a charm I saw when selling the domain and wanted to see what price would I get of this domain. I`m not frauding any one, it's unfortunate people come here with little or no knowledge and thrash each others thread. If i did not want to be honest I would simply not show the URL and ask people to message me. This is a recently expired domain!! A domain that is around 2 years old in age.

 

just post the domain and there will be no question to your rep

 

Why then did you edited the post and remove the URL?
http://www.webindiayellowpages.com

Google has no backlinks for this site which means it is no longer a PR7 site regardless of if it was using a redirect or had real PR. It is deceptive to tell people they can make $1,400 by selling links because no one is going to pay for a PR7 link from a site with no backlinks. I understand you claim you just purchased the site, but you should take that up with whom you purchased it from. If you didn't know it when you purchased it, you know it now. For all purposes, it is a PR0 (like all the inner pages show) and will show this with the next google toolbar update.

Are you willing to say it will show a PR7 or PR6 on the next update? No. That's because you know it won't and most likely why you are trying to unload it to someone else. That makes your behavior look deceptive, at least in my opinion.

 

Have a look at the cache and the date - http://66.102.9.104/search?q=cache:xXc5dj1jaQUJ:www.webindiayellowpages.com/+&hl=en Says the domain expired 10th June

 

Actually I'm not agreeing with the term 'fake PR' maybe 'artificial PR'. Does this not come from a flaw in the Google PR algo? I have several pages that are artificial PR, but stumbled across this quite innocently while using a redirect on a few pages. I checked with the tool provided in this thread earlier (thank you great find)

and it confirms 'be careful'. In my case I did not intentionally try to exploit anything but certainly could not help but notice the high PR on pages that certainly did not deserve such a ranking.

My questions are:

1) Does this still behave as PR, eg passing PR to other pages
2) Does this PR ranking jive with Google's internal PR ranking
3) Someone mentioned getting banned for this....really?

The third point is most critical to me as my intentions were NOT to exploit. IT would seem unfair to me that I risk getting banned for putting a redirect on a few pages resulting in an artificail PR boost that I didn't ask for...but I'll take it?

The bigger picture, IMO, is look what PR has become! Should we have this much confidence in PR being the guage or benchmark in determining the value of a site?

It is a good thing for the DP forum and threads like this! A great thread, thanks for the info. textlink...good luck selling your domain.

 

I never took off the URL, to start with I never put the URL, i took off the ebay URL because people were thrashing my post, it's for the future buyer, but people here posted the URL (cannot do much) anyway, I know half dozen sites with 0 backlinks one of which i also own with 3 PR7's and 12 PR6's with 0 backlinks showing on search engines, I guess they delete backlinks of expired domains, anyway moderators could you kindly close this thread.

Thank You.

 

Can you provide a just one of the urls you mentioned, that have no google backlinks and have a PR7 or PR6? Ones that you owned BEFORE the last toolbar update? As you know, the toolbar only updates every several months, so a PR7 site that has been claimed out of redemption might continue to show the old PR until the next update - when the PR will change based on the amount of current backlinks. Google does not pass PR based on the toolbar, so it doesn't mean it is passing even temporary PR. I am not aware of any PR7 sites that have maintained a PR7 without ANY google backlinks. Are the PR7 text links you having been offering here from the sites that have no google backlinks?

 

that would be interesting to see

 

i've learned alot of important things from this thread, so keep it going

anyways, i think some of you forget one imprtant thing, the PR of a site is what's showing on the google bar and it IS it's PR until the next google update. no matter what you see on the google index/caching...

if he is promissing in his ads that the PR will remain after the next update, then maby you have a case on calling him a lier otherwise, he is selling the domain at it's current status. you could, like some people did (and thank you for doing it), give the potential buyer the tools for checking the domain "future PR" or PR origin.

one last thing, as i guess all of you know, no one, other then google, knows when will be the next update and what will be it's results. we can only guess, even that pre-check tool you gave (that is not really acurate in many cases!!! )

that's all i had to say, i think this is an important thread and i don't think the mods should close it.

 

I dont know where you come from but I have yet to see mods lock or close a thread on here. With the rep system we can pretty much govern ourselves. (kinda)

I have had domains stuck on pr7 that have made it through several updates. Ive boggled the minds of some of the best seo experts on how its even possible...

I wouldnt count on a domain loosing its pr after the next update

 

You *had*... what happened to those domains?

 

Actually, a sites true PR isn't what is showing on the toolbar. The toolbar is always a look at the past. It has nothing to do with current SERPS. Even on the day the toolbar updates, the SERPS have already been updated so you won't see anything but normal fluctuactions in rankings. Google uses internal PR which is updated several times a month vs every 2-3 months for the toolbar. Looking at the toolbar doesn't tell you anything but what the PR used to be. Since you can't tell the current PR, it is the only indicator you have- but a site that has no backlinks is not passing any PR. The google toolbar can also be tricked into showing any PR you want with a 302 redirect - even a PR10 - but it isn't passing the PR.

In his ebay ad he is comparing his site to those selling for $10,000 to $50,000 and fails to mention it no longer has any backlinks - or that is was purchased out of redemption. He also is saying you can make $1,400 a month by selling 20 links @ $70 each. How much would you pay for a PR7 link if the site had no backlinks? He's dumping the site because he knows what is going to happen with the next update.

 

the mods shld close such threads.. or even better, clip this thread in first place.

 

in that case i guess there is a reason to comment about it.

 

"Page rank = 0. The determined PageRank appears to be real."

 

Why? If the original seller has something to say, he has the opportunity to say it here. People who are itching to buy are counselled to take caution. What is your problem with the thread? Neither the seller (if he has nothing to hide) nor any prospective buyer should object to this thread.

 

nice bashing guys. hope you bashed the right guy

 

Even ShoeMoney commented he caugh heat also from this type of subject; so, I guess it's expected.

It might be personal. For me when I saw the sale announced, I have no PR7's and it seems like a very much covrieted thing for me, so seeing someone acchive it and then just want to sell it seemed weird. So I understand why people checked, and checked, a even lashed out once they came to the conclusion it was a scam.

Part of life,

tom