Pr Update!?

Discussion in 'Google' started by joeychgo, Sep 12, 2004.

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    Now his PR is 5 ----- are we in the midst of a PR toolbar update?
     
    joeychgo, Sep 12, 2004 IP
  2. disgust

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    doesn't look like it to me.

    my site increased in the directory a while back, but not on the toolbar. I'm still not seeing a change- checked every datacenter
     
    disgust, Sep 12, 2004 IP
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    actually, my site has PR5 for quite some times. there is no change recently.
     
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    arrrrrgg - disgust - ye have the post count of the beast !!
    stay away ! devil

    (which no doubt will change by the time you and other people read this and everyone 'll think - eh what the fecks is fluke on about?)

    oh well
     
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    #5
    Eh, what the fecks is fluke on about?
     
    schlottke, Sep 13, 2004 IP
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    I see where you are coming from Fluke ;)
     
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  7. schlottke

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    (I do too... just so you guys dont think Im an idiot... but I felt it would be pretty fun to say it anyway.)
     
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  8. fluke

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    it made me laugh ;)
     
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    #9
    I don't see any PR update, where is it evident.. across which datacenter? NO changes as far as i see.
     
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    No changes over here - yet.
     
    Jan, Sep 14, 2004 IP
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    No change yet ..... :(
    Still waiting ..... I reckon they must've switched to the 3 month updates and I PREDICT :rolleyes: the next one will be in the 4th week of September ....... 10 days to go! :D
     
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    #12
    This is pretty much a pointless exercise:

    1. because no one knows but Google when they will update the toolbar PR
    2. because "true" PR is probably updated more often (see the discrepancies between Google Directory PR values and Google Toolbar PR values for the same site)
    3. because updates, tweaks, adjustments, or whatever you want to call them go on more-or-less continuously
    4. because it's a waste of time to put that much energy into worrying about PR when there are so many more important things for you to spend your time on -- things that will have a much greater impact on SE rankings, click-throughs to your website, and income.
     
    minstrel, Sep 14, 2004 IP
  13. fluke

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    nevertheless it's still rewarding and kind of fun to watch the little green bar go up

    (or depressing and not fun if the little green bar goes down goes down)
     
    fluke, Sep 15, 2004 IP
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    Yes... although we all "know" that the PR has little effect on the SERPs we "all" still look forward to it anxiously.
     
    vlead, Sep 15, 2004 IP
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    #15
    I agree, although lately we've all been watching it stand still :eek:

    But my point was all of these predictions to the effect that "the PR update will happen next Tuesday" or "the PR update will happen on Christmas eve" are pointless and meaningless -- it will happen when it happens, or maybe it will never happen again: maybe the little green bar will simply disappear in the next version of the Google Toolbar...
     
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    Rather than worrying about whether your are PR3 Pr4 PR5, you'd be better spending that time getting extra links - then you can spend time worrying about why your links aren't showing.
     
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    I partly agree with you ..... Unfortunately, the PR update will affect my site hugely as I had changed the entire site's structure after the last update and all the important pages on my site appear at #4 to #80 (without a PR) and after the update, I am expecting them to have a PR of 4,5 or over and to be ranked in the top 10, if not the top 5.

    Now, it probably doesn't make a big difference if you go from a PR4 ro PR5, but if you go from PR0 to PR4 ....... :D
     
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  18. minstrel

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    #18
    This is a common misunderstanding but you are holding your breath for no reason. Google updates its index on a more-or-less continuous basis and any changes in your site are reflected as soon as the pages are spidered and indexed. There are also frequent updates to the various datacenters to propagate the ongoing additions and changes to the index/database. These are already reflected in your Google rankings, aka search engine results, aka SERPs.

    Your PageRank changes as new backlinks to a page are recognized, and again this is already taken into account in the SERPs. So if or when Google gets around to updating the Google Toolbar PR graph, the effect on your SERPs will be nil or virtually nil. The onlt thing that will change is that green bar.
     
    minstrel, Sep 15, 2004 IP
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    I'm afraid I have to disagree with that. When Google indexes pages (which it does on a regular basis as you mentioned), it indexes new pages as well as newer content on these newer pages and it also collects BL information, but it doesn't update PR on a regular basis. BL information does not affect anything on its own .... it only affects PR ..... and PR hasn't been updated for almost 3 months now.

    There are slight changes in SERPs just about every day which has to do with other stuff - changes in content, new indexed pages, changes in title tags etc. But, when a PR update takes place, it affects SERPs quite a bit, especially if the PR of the web page before and after the update changes quite a bit! :)
     
    dfsweb, Sep 15, 2004 IP
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    Pick a site that's listed in the Google Directory. Check out it's PR in the directory listing. Now go to the site and look at the Toolbar PR -- in many cases, you'll find it's not the same. The toolbar graph hasn't been updated in three months -- that doesn't mean everything that plays a role in SERPs hasn't been updated all along.

    Not in my experience, not even in the "old days" when there were definite periodic PR updates.
     
    minstrel, Sep 15, 2004 IP