There is no imminent PR update. Lets get that straight so people don't have to read through 20 posts to find that out. See. I'm not a moron like the people at the bottom of the PR update portal.
all I know is I don't give a shit about PR. I can't believe that 80% of the members here pay attention to it. That's so sad
It is sad. Too many people think all you've got to do is beg, borrow, or steal high PR and then the bucks start rolling in. Worry about building a decent website with good content or a good product or service at a reasonable. Work hard at getting out the word and improving the site and the product/service. That's how the bucks roll in. There are NO shortcuts.
The PR on my main site went from 5 down to 4 but KWP moved up in the serps, more visitors and more sales. If I need to lower PR again to accomplish a similar result, then I would. LOL
which is EXACTLY the advice Google gives to ALL webmasters! Thank you Funny how everyone tries to outsmart the smartest people in the world.
Rock on Canadian, great thread. I manage a few forums and it's annoying not being able to lock threads like that. In all fairness... those who say ppl pay too much attention to PR I bet own PR5+ sites and have the experience to say so. There are a lot of new sites which are run by people either still learning and need some positive feedback for all their efforts (which is fair enough) or sites which are still doing it hard in the serps and a higher PR will help them, not matter how experienced in attracting new links. I look at DP and wonder why it isn't a PR8 from natural linking... or maybe that's the point that we can share, you don't need massive PR for traffic in the SEO industry at least (uneducated guess - I'm not in that industry).
PR is like money, you want it most when you don't have it. A link building campaign is more successful when you have it.
Sorry but I thought the other PR update thread is so much more funnier! Seriously though, who spends day after day checking there PR nowadays, usually people new to SEO, and we've all been there, so instead of watching the Toolbar, what can we do that is more productive? (sensible answers only please ) My suggestion is ; build links to your site - keep them themed to the site, i.e. widgets site get links from a blue widget site. etc.
I have never been one to go chasing PR. In fact, I don't mind reciprocal links from low PR sites as long as their links page has been properly indexed by Google and that the site has relevance to my site. But Google changed my mind on the importance of PR. One of our client sites is a real estate web site, and it literally dominates the SERP's for our 8 primary keywords as well as dozens of other key phrases on every search engine - except Google. Sure, the site is less than a year old (8 months) but it is #1 for allinanchor, allintitle, and allintext for our main key phrase. After the last update, the site dropped from a PR5 to a PR4, and it was never higher than than #230 in the SERP's. When I looked at G's top 3 pages of results for our main kw I got disgusted with the amount of totally irrelevant sites that were showing up and fired off an email to G. Here is part of the email that they sent back: Of course, I then felt obligated to point out to them the sites in their top results that had zero PR and almost no backlinks. In the past I had sent a few emails to G with questions or comments, but this is the first time that they discussed PR in their reply. My gut feeling is still that our toolbar is not the true indicator of what G considers true PR, only an unreasonable facsimile. The good news is that since my email to G our site in question has jumped in the SERP's every other day and is now at least in the top 80. Yeah, it might as well still be 200+, but hopefully it keeps moving in the same direction.