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PR Update August 24, 2006

Discussion in 'Google' started by NetMidWest, Aug 24, 2006.

  1. mvandemar

    mvandemar Notable Member

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    #201
    Mmm... I'm not seeing what you are seeing... I'd look again :D

    [​IMG]

    Maybe one of the engineers read that favoritism remark and decided to mess with Matt. :p

    -Michael
     
    mvandemar, Aug 30, 2006 IP
  2. NetMidWest

    NetMidWest Peon

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    #202
    Must be messing with us... I did. Still 5 across the board...

    I see the problem, try this:
    http://livepr.raketforskning.com/?u=http://mattcutts.com/
    You are using the www version.

    The changes I noticed have all been for mattcutts.com. It had dropped to 4 on several d/c's.

    No other sites I am checking have recovered, and all older ones I have seen dropped 1.
     
    NetMidWest, Aug 30, 2006 IP
  3. onedollar

    onedollar SEO Consultant for Hire

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    #203
    Matt Cutts has himself acknowledged that this is not an update per se. :)
     
    onedollar, Aug 30, 2006 IP
  4. khushal

    khushal Well-Known Member

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    #204
    I dont know whats with this update thingy but i see the same results for MattCutt's website (i.e PR 5) on all the Datacentres!
     
    khushal, Aug 31, 2006 IP
  5. webfreak80

    webfreak80 Peon

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    #205
    I see changes here:

    64.233.187.104/

    and http://64.233.187.99

    I can see only changes regarding back links.

    Anyone else?
     
    webfreak80, Aug 31, 2006 IP
  6. johnweb

    johnweb Peon

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    #206
    try mattcutts.com without the www. He let the engineers play with his site's preferred domain setting, that could be part of the PR changes.
     
    johnweb, Aug 31, 2006 IP
  7. MakZF

    MakZF Well-Known Member

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    #207
    Was there really an update? Regardless though, my site's still PR4 on every datacenter.
     
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  8. webfreak80

    webfreak80 Peon

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    #208
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  9. Sem-Advance

    Sem-Advance Notable Member

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    #209
    oh you have a sense of humor..........LOL...it would seem you do.

    Question is after Paypal steals its fees will he get $0.25 out of the deal???
     
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  10. NetMidWest

    NetMidWest Peon

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    #210
    Nope. I used my personal account, and got the whole 5 bucks. If he did the same, he will get the full amount too. The only real fees are 2.5% for handling multiple currencies, or $1.50 for a check withdrawl. Business accounts must pay a percent to receive... :cool:

    I would be interested to know if Matt Cutts used the preferred domain setting tool, and that was the reason. Maybe we will see a blog post on it soon? ;)
     
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  11. justtupeu

    justtupeu Peon

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    #211
    No changes here. Though I wouldn't mind if the PR went up :)
     
    justtupeu, Aug 31, 2006 IP
  12. DomainMagnate

    DomainMagnate Illustrious Member

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    #212
    no changes here
     
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  13. NetMidWest

    NetMidWest Peon

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    #213
    Perhaps they will unfreeze what they started this weekend. Labor day is Monday.
    You know how they like holiday weekends for such things.
     
    NetMidWest, Aug 31, 2006 IP
  14. Sem-Advance

    Sem-Advance Notable Member

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    #214

    Good deal on the paypal


    As for Matts blog and the prefered domain...

    Wouldnt this be going back to the canonical URL issues??

    And I would think Matt would have used his .htaccess file to point all inbound links to the proper URL......:confused:
     
    Sem-Advance, Aug 31, 2006 IP
  15. NetMidWest

    NetMidWest Peon

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    #215
    The only use I see for the preferred domain tool is for those who do not have .htaccess - or another means to redirect www and non-www to one or the other - available to them.

    Does Matt Cutts? There have been discussions on linking to him in contests, by darkseo team, etc. Gotta wonder.
    But he may have known that this tool was coming, and wished to test it.
    Might explain this strange update - freeze deal. They wanted to see what happens.

    More info:
    http://www.google.com/support/webmasters/bin/answer.py?answer=44231
     
    NetMidWest, Aug 31, 2006 IP
  16. johnweb

    johnweb Peon

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    #216
    NetMidwest,

    I know I heard on a video, I think its here: Webmasters Tools, that the engineers had been testing the preferred domain feature on his site before it was rolled out to the public. He has more pages indexed for the non-www version than the www version, but not one link on his own site to the non-www version, plus as everyone has noted his server resolves to either to show the same content so it would indeed be a good test for the preffered domain.

    He was a PR7, now showing PR5 for the non-www version and PR0 for the www version. I really doubt he lost links, probably gains 100 a day from all those millions of SEO bloggers out there.

    So let's all start the rumor that setting your preferred domain splits your page rank, and use this as the basis!
     
    johnweb, Aug 31, 2006 IP
  17. mvandemar

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    #217
    Right, but the $5 was for any changes, not just changes to a specific site. I still see flux in other sites as well, not just to 0 and back, but flux up or down of a single PR. I think you might be right about Labor Day, we'll see soon enough.

    Quick side note, if the change to Matt's site are because of the webmaster tools preference thing, then something is screwed up on some DC's... shouldn't an info: query be showing when you type in a domain name? And if they set a preference, shouldn't it pick one and stick to it?

    http://64.233.161.99/search?hl=en&q=www.mattcutts.com
    http://64.233.161.99/search?hl=en&lr=&q=mattcutts.com

    -Michael
     
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  18. NetMidWest

    NetMidWest Peon

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    #218
    Interesting...
    Either with or without the www, it shows the www version, but:
    If you search without the www, it shows mattcutts.com/blog/ with an entry of Aug 27th in the description with no cache date, 38k file, clicking on the cache shows the 28th.
    If you search with it, you get www mattcutts.com/blog/ with an entry of Aug 29th in the description with cache of the 29th, 39k file, clicking on the cache shows the 30th.

    mattcutts.com links to www mattcutts.com/blog/ - it links absolutely. I must assume that the non-www indexing of it is due to outside links.

    I suppose we will know in a day or two what is happening by watching your two queries, Michael. This may have happened in the last day or two and it may take new data or even a new crawl to fix it completely.
     
    NetMidWest, Aug 31, 2006 IP
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    87654321 Well-Known Member

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    #219
    I noticed some change in the PR within different datacenters and I think it is a PR update ! If its not a PR update and I am just assuming things, please forgive me... :p

    [​IMG]
     
    87654321, Sep 1, 2006 IP
  20. LinkBliss

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    #220
    It seems like the last one was too recently?

    Eric
     
    LinkBliss, Sep 1, 2006 IP