PR is a must for Directories

I dont know what your talking about.

Im talking about Pete lying with false information and addresses.

Im not a master of anything.

 

I will take the reverse psychologist thing as a compliment, my wife is like that, always reading between the lines and I tell her the same as I will tell you. If I wanted to do something (in this case, according to you, threaten), then I would. I wouldn't hide it in anyway.

But that is not my intention nor was it ever, I was merely trying to educate you as to someone whom you might want to listen to with regards to learning this industry. And as I have said previously, take that advice how you like.

This is now the fifth time I have tried to make clear my point but niether you nor pipes are seeing it how I intended it, so at this point I will bow out, as you lot seem focused on an issue that I am not.

 

I will be making my own choices SilkySmooth. I will be making these choices only after hard learning which I am seeing will be difficult to be doing. I am to be thanking you for some input but in same breathing would be telling you that you do not be needing to be rocket scientist to feel sarcasm in your posting.

I am glad to not be threatened for my reply to this would be to be repeating what pipes is to say. Worst thing you could be doing to me is to be gving me red repping and to be getting me banned from this forum, I do not be wanting that but am neither fearing this, I would be finding other ways to examine truths and exposing this. I also do not make threats I just have ability to investigate and expose wrongs. This could be damage to peoples reliant on moneys from these untruths, more worse than banned I am thinking.

To be putting this in the perspective it is about peoples making puffing of what they are and to be using press releasing for this. If informations is to be truthful puffing is to be expected, but if puffing is using false informations it is being a different story.

I am reading this somewhere... There is no such thing as a bad student, there are only such things as bad teachers. It is the bad teaching I am to try and avoid.

 

All good taliking about directories, why not make a post regarding the type of directory you would like, perhaps some thoughts as the steps you would like to take and then perhaps the process of putting your directory can begin.

If you still have issues with BG take them up private, but if your going to be looking at every person / item on the net that is wrong and then covering that of, then you time for learning will be clouded with pointless information not allowing you to focus on your goals. sometimes it's best just to quietly let things go.

Look forward to your directory thread and thoughts on that

 

Firstly do not be telling me what to do, I will be deciding on what I am wanting to post and where I am wanting to post. I do not be having issues with individuals only to be being concerned with falsities. For your part of information I did be posting p.m but was being ignored so am assuming to be posting openly is to be fine. If a person is to be having nothing to be hiding would it not be being fine to ask questions?

I am to be aiming at development of what you are calling a niche directory but am wanting to look at what I am knowing as specialist subject matter. I am to learn much things firstly before walking into deep end, learning what mistakes are to be already done by peoples and to be learning to be avoiding them. Once I am feeling comfortable I am avoiding pitfalling I am to start project. So much to learn and so many different opinions to be learning from, quite a daunting task but I am being up to this.

 

I was going to just stay out of it and let you all duke it out, but I feel like I need to respond since I'm coming under unjustified personal attacks now:

If you actually re-read the press release, you'll notice that nowhere in the release do I make a company out to be bigger than it is. I don't make claims of it being some international network of companies... only that they cater to an international audience, like many websites / online businesses do. Please be more careful before questioning my professionalism and credibility.

The only way I'm seeing that assumption can be drawn from the release itself would be the company name listed in the contact information to the right. To the best of my knowledge, I wasn't hired to handle the distribution of this release (correct me if I'm wrong Pete). Even if I were, I do require clients to have their own accounts on PRweb before I'll post a release there for them (so if that's how they're listed in their account, that's in PRweb's and the client's hands; not mine). What a client says or calls themselves when they distribute a release also isn't my responsibility unless I'm contracted to handle that distribution for them.

If there's any credibility to be questioned here, it's of those making accusations about misinformation without getting their own facts straight first.

A few tips for our journalist friend in the future though:

1. Don't make public accusations against a company without at least attempting to contact them privately first. From you're language I'm assuming you're not US- or UK-based, and I don't know the rules in your location. But the last thing you should be doing as a journalist is making potentially libelous comments.

2. Don't claim to have dug into something when it's clear you didn't even bother to look into the company's own contact page before posting.

3. Don't expect details on a 3-month old press release to all necessarily be accurate. Businesses change regularly, especially on the Web. Again, this is precisely why you should have reached out to the company privately (even if only via forum PM from the start when you saw this information posted).

4. Don't blow things out of proportion. In this case you took something like domain registration information and turned it into inaccuracies directly in my press release - not the case. I'm sorry if the phone number made you suspicious, but we have to use the contact information provided by the client, and quite frankly, it's not that uncommon to use an answering service when you don't want your private lines and such broadcast all over the Web (it's also not terribly uncommon for those services to be outsourced to other countries).

5. You didn't make it clear in this case if you were looking for registration information on the directory name or the company name they included in the PRweb contact info. So this comment is just in a general sense, and relevant only if you were searching under the site name: Many (if not most) websites aren't registered as their own businesses under their site name. Some are, but it's not a general rule. Instead, many webmasters choose to register one business and run multiple sites under that larger umbrella company.

I'm not trying to put you under attack... just sharing some thoughts and hopefully helping you to avoid similar situations in the future. But on another note, welcome to the forum. I'm sure you'll learn quite a bit about directories here (I know I did).

In Pete's case, from a PR perspective, I'd suggest updating any outdated contact info (if you haven't already), so you don't end up under fire again. As I said, I don't know the registration situation and applicable international laws, but all in all I've known Pete to be a pretty reputable person to work with.

Lesson to be learned on all fronts: Always reach out privately before accusing publicly (and in this case, answering service or not, there were multiple other contact points made available).

Hopefully everyone has it out of their systems (because it's sounding a bit like a broken record at this point), so we all can get back to more productive business.

 

Jenn Mattern, im no professional, but if you are going to offer a professional business service then i would recommend checking further details of any company that your writing for, in order to protect yourself.

I dont know who you have written for but i imagine that in time if you stay in the same business offering the same services that your clients will be from bigger and bigger companies with lots more complications.

I dont expect you to take any advice from me, after all you know your job better than i ever could but its something i would keep in mind.

Im not responding to the rest of your post i want to point out as i see the rest is not addressed to me, and i admittedly responded slightly incorrectly elsewhere in the thread.

But, to clarify, i still claim Pete to be lying, to be using addresses that exist but not for his business and that all this international companies talk is without being too crude "a load of bull" Pete represent youself as you are, i will respect you a hundred times more for that.

I run all of my online ventures on my own, i keep myself registered and all above board, the brown envelopes from HM Revenue and Customs i receive, you know what im saying here.

Cut the nonsense and promote your directories without all the false crap, in turn you bring much less uneccessary attention to yourself.

Im not out to get you Pete, just a clear message to you and anyone, that you play this crap with your business and on forums and it eventually comes back and slaps you in the face.

 

That was my point. All details actually written by me were checked between the client's site and directly with the client. If there's no other company name listed on the site, and it's not provided by the company, there's no possible way I can pull it's name out of my hat to check on it. That's also why I pointed out that company name listed to the right of the release was not included by me. It was included by whoever set up the company's PRweb account or who handled the distribution (and after checking my records, I was not contracted to do the distribution). That information was added after the project was out of my hands. I'm not accusing anyone of anything... just pointing out that I don't appreciate my credibility being questioned when I took every step available to verify data, and that what I personally provided is not in any way making the claims some folks were trying to attribute to me.

 

Thats a fair enough comment from yourself, your coming here to make your point and you dont want to be involved in anything between me and Pete, completely understandable.

Thanks for replying.

 

I actually quit reading your post as soon as you said this:

What you showed is that yet again you didn't bother reading what was said there before your last post, or you would have seen that there was absolutely no lack of due diligence on my part and the work I was contracted to do. For a journalist you're not demonstrating great research skills before speaking.

I really don't have time to keep answering the same point, so I probably won't check in here again. If you have a gripe with Pete, I'm sure he'd be happy to answer your questions. If you have a gripe with me, exercise as least a little bit of professionalism, and contact me privately.

 

Nicely said pipes. It's been going on for a while already. A lot of bull and a lot of bait from the associates.

 

I am reading perfectly thanking you. Due diligence would to be looking for factuality of your clients claims but you do be already knowing this if you are to be true press officer. I am not having gripe with you jhmattern as you say, or with individual peoples but all peoples who are making wild claim to be international company for purpose to be misleading potential peoples like me to buy services only to be being finding that the claiming is not to be true.

To be showing you utmost respect I will surely post to you privately to be letting you know of what is being my purpose if future is requiring this.

 

Well you read me al wrong buddy, i was in no way telling you what to do, mere options.

In addition to working with and employing every type of person, i have also had many staff who thought they were the sherrif.

The type who know every thing, are the loudest, complain everything is wrong, they were always the busy ones getting nothing done and so on.

These people where also the ones of least value to the company in general every one else was wrong, they disrupted the other workers, without doubt had to worry about every one else and often tripped over their big sherrifs badges. but they are always right, just ask them

You talk about bullies at school , yet you march into this forum with your sleeves rolled up looking for a fight.

well like you aid ther are many quiet ones here as well.

For my part i wish you well, but i very much doubt i will have any further input into your posts as playing sherrif around here is a pointless game.

As said before ( and looks like you may take a few years to work this out ) you will see more wrong things here than right if you look hard enough, and if your plans are to bring out your 6 gun everytime i can only feel sorry that you feel you need to interfere with other peoples lives rather than focus on your own. sad

 

You are to be so wrong downunder. I am not to be sherrif, but I am also not to be being fooled by peoples who are not to be correctly advertising. I am wanting to make monies from directory but do be seing peoples are being happy to lie to take monies away from legitimate peoples. I will be finding quiet and good peoples as surely as I am to be finding bad ones but it will not be taking many years. I am to shock you with peoples wanting to support me for being too afraid to shake the finger, many peoples are being fed up to back teeth with certain peoples and I am learning quickly why this is so.

 

By the time you get through 1% of people currently on the www who have something wrong with advertising, with out adding the 1000's of new ones aach day you will have no time for your directory.

I am sure you have an army of supporters but being from old school, seen your type all to often, when you get to making a directory i will remove you from the ignore list. for now i have little time for your posts. as mentioned worked with plenty of people like you and every one of them have been a waste of time.

 

without pr who will buy the links on directories

 

It is to be important to be knowing you have not been working with me. Peoples are not like me, I am being like a fingerprint to my hand, it is being unique. You are not being on my ignore list.

Be blessed.

 

I have a very simple rule in running my business.If you are going to give me money then you deserve to have my business name address phone and tax number.If it is listed information online I use only an email and business name .
You can be a corporation running from a house that you also live in and be considered a 'large company'. Mom and dad can also be a shareholder too

 

I will try this one more time, now before you read what i write, please refer back to your staement re "no such thing as bad studends just bad teachers" and in that and having had 100's of studends the hardest ones to teach if possible where those to busy speaking and full of ideas and not using 2 ears and one mouth.

Now I do agree with ethics and being honest, it is how i have built my business over many years, I also have very little time for people pulling cons etc.

Correctly you have every right to question any thing you deem not to look right, and in that i wish you well and a positive result in your finings as i am sure it will be.

How ever you say that if you can not resolve the issue you will / can / might post public, to what avail i am not sure because i very much doubt any one here has or holds private data on other people and or concerns them.

As stated prior if you wish to look at every detail in peoples contacts here you will be lucky to find even half to your liking, and then you will be even luckier to gain a response from any of them.

This alone will mean 99% of your posts here will be chasing people who do not respond to your PM or emails.

This has only covered the issue of contact, so please also understand as you learn that this makes up 1% of the things you will see wrong.

So now if you wish to take to task every single item that is wrong you simply are out of time, and further to that as above post with regard to the 99% who will not bother replying to you then all that will be created is a place of bitterness, fights and general time wasting.

Also please remember that just because what you see and deem as wrong in your eyes, is or may not be wrong in another persons eyes and in that you have no right to impose your thoughts as to what is right or wrong, over and above a general post in thread

Keep that in mind many people here are young and in their early learning curve and will like all people develop and improve as they move forward.

If it is truley your ambition to learn in regards directories then go back to your school days and be one of those quiet kids, we already have enough bullies here that just love stiring up trouble.

Further to that by then quietly developing your directory to the exacting standards as you see fit you then will provide inspiration and leadership to those existing and any new players and with this approach achieve more both for your self, your directory and be of asset to this comminity now and moving forward. walk the walk don't talk the talk