PR Increase == Search Results Loss

Discussion in 'Google' started by locux, Jan 1, 2009.

  1. #1
    I'm very pleased to see one of my new sites go from PR0 to PR4 last night; however, a couple days ago before that happened the same site lost nearly 90 positions in rank. Page 4 down to 12.

    While I'm pleased to see a nice PR bump, I think I'd prefer to have the position, and hope it's just a glitch in google algorithms during the PR update. I've noticed one other site with competing keywords also lost a lot of position, so I'm really hoping that's the case.

    Curious if anyone else experienced the same?
     
    locux, Jan 1, 2009 IP
  2. jj1

    jj1 Active Member

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    #2
    Is such a massive rank loss due to a Google penalty???? Eg link farms, black hat SEO, spamming?

    Also, if you've got such a good PR, then I would have thought that with the right SEO you could appear better than p4.

    Good luck and hope it works out.
     
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  3. seo_-

    seo_- Banned

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    #3
    Dont worry abt position of ur site at specific keyword, and keep going on the track that leads u to high pagerank. Keep in my that google updates all site at same time when updating urs, so if u r down its mean some body at ur position. It is like game, never take it personal. Any way congrate on good pagerank.
     
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  4. Niche

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    #4
    I have the opposite
    PR down and traffic up

    Makes you wonder about the importance of PR
     
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  5. mickmel

    mickmel Peon

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    #5
    Toolbar PR is 3-6 months old (each update posts newer data, but still very outdated), so don't make too tight a correlation.

    Real PR is constantly being recalculated and used all the time. If you went from a 0-4 with this update, you've probably slowly gone 0-1-2-3-4 over the past few months -- the toolbar just doesn't update that often.
     
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  6. d35i9n

    d35i9n Member

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    #6
    but even if thats the case its still pretty bad that his pr went up and search rankings went down. something went wrong
     
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  7. paulseo

    paulseo Member

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    #7
    Dont worry , its just google respidering the whole web, its temporary
     
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  8. letsnurture

    letsnurture Peon

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    #8
    google has just updated pr.
     
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    #9
    I had the same thing happen to my blog, pr went down but my serp positions are up....
     
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  10. izwanmad

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    #10
    even the toolbar just updated recently??

    for the op, I'm sorry to hear that. Don't worry, just keep develop a good content and seo for your site. I'm sure your serp will come back.
     
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  11. mickmel

    mickmel Peon

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    #11
    You're not understanding this. We know his PR went up 3-6 months ago, and his rankings went down today. Those two are very unlikely unconnected.

    They don't just crawl from time to time -- they crawl millions of pages daily.

    Correct. When it updates, it shows numbers that are 3-6 months old. That means in March before the next updates, the toolbar will be showing 6-9 month old data, then it will get refreshed again and only be 3-6 months old.
     
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  12. xiangxianni

    xiangxianni Peon

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    #12
    I met the same issue as op.
    mm
     
    xiangxianni, Jan 1, 2009 IP
  13. Chancey

    Chancey Well-Known Member

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    #13
    That is not glitch. It's a simple case of the other webmaster defeating you on your chosen keyword.
     
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  14. Australianfranchises

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    #14
    I think your ranking some fluctuation, continue your work, returns your SERP's.
     
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    #15
    I wouldn't overly worry about this. Rankings fluctuate constantly. You might have hit a mini-sandbox, where Google sorts out an algorithm shift for your particular page. Toolbar PR is a good indicator of what the relative value of your site is in terms of rankings, but not the *only* ranking factor. If you watch a set of in demand keywords, the pole position changes quite drastically, the more competitive the term, the more frequently (usually).
     
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  16. theworldwinner

    theworldwinner Well-Known Member

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    #16
    it may be temporary so dont worry wait for some days it will be back
     
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    #17
    My pr decrease,may be it's due to the links decrease.But i think the traffic is the most important thing for us.
     
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    #18
    i think you r right
     
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    #19
    Obviously you should be focusing on the traffic and as you targeted traffic equals Money.
    Don't worry! Congrats Anyway.

    CHEERS,

    MG
     
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  20. genuineseo

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    #20
    Don't worry SERP's, continue your work.
     
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