PR has no value. See what I did

Discussion in 'Google' started by mirainfo, Feb 4, 2007.

  1. #1
    Hey guys,
    You all have been running after google page rank and I have been screaming after all not to run after PR but after content and base SEO so that you rank well in SERP.

    There can be a site with high PR but poor SERP and a site with low PR but high SERP.

    Being an SEO professional I have been researching after all these and many times (like other smart SEO guys) I have been doing research and at times I could easily bit google in various area and PR was one of them. It is a common knowledge that using 301 redirect we could steal PR from another site (without causing real harm to that site) and increase the PR of our site.

    I could acheive PR10 for a new site in 10 days. lol. Anyways that is no more possible as google patched it promptly.

    But now I discovered something interesting and thought to share it with you all.

    We all know that DMOZ belongs to google and is a mega directory. And lol look for the PR of www.dmoz.org which was PR8 few days back.

    yes its PR0 now.

    Well without www it is still 8.

    Now guess how it happened. I can not discuss more here ;)

    Will appreciate your comments on this.

    Best Regards
    MI
    :)
     
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  2. hmpargi

    hmpargi Active Member

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    :O what huh pm me what u did what u no :|
     
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  3. The Evil Penguin

    The Evil Penguin Peon

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    #3
    :D so what happened
     
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  4. login

    login Notable Member

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    #4
    I agree totally with you, but what are you trying to say about dmoz ?
     
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  5. aaron_nimocks

    aaron_nimocks Im kind of a big deal Staff

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    #5
    I dont understand.

    PR is still a factor in SERPs. Visit google and read, they tell you that.

    Also DMOZ has a good PR without the www so whats the big deal? DMOZ prefers to focus on their site without the www and theres nothing wrong with it.
     
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  6. bhopkins

    bhopkins Banned

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    #6
    I totally agree that PR has no value in ranking. It does help with traffic by its very nature. The more links you have to your site the more likely you will recieve visitors from those links.

    I don't know hwat may be the deal with dmoz and their page rank, but my guess would be that Google changed the link from www to on without. Should not make a difference right now if it just happened unless Google treats the PR of their sites with some special treatment.
     
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  7. Computerized

    Computerized Well-Known Member

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    #7
    Great, you discover something, make a topic about it, and all you tell us is that DMOZ has a PR 8 without the "www".
     
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    lpstong Notable Member

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    #8
    Yes indeed its a 0 with the www. but without it still holds the PR8.

    As far as Serp's and PR and indexing. I am not sure all about that. Because I am not an SEO expert. But from what I do know..... I would just really think being index has to do with fresh content and its relevance to your site. And indeed backlinks.
     
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    altaf Active Member

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    nice share but not complete so plz tell something about dmoz without www
     
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    kittyluver Notable Member

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    #10
    Anyhow, most of us prefer to get good PR. may be at least (PR 4). Coz I can earn few bucks by selling links on my site...
     
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    charlesgan Well-Known Member

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    #11
    quick search at google SE, the dmoz will direct you to dmoz.org, not www. its bit odd.
     
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  12. Indian

    Indian Peon

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    #12
    No backlinks for www.dmoz.org

    Results 1 - 10 of about 245,000 linking to dmoz.org.

    Your search - link:www.dmoz.org - did not match any documents
     
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  13. kh7

    kh7 Peon

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    #13
    This is really no big deal. DMOZ probably just added the preference for dmoz.org in their google-sitemaps.
     
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  14. MeetHere

    MeetHere Prominent Member

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    #14
    PR depends on how you are promoting your site.
    If you are promoting/building links using www.domain.com then PR will pass for that domain only..
    If it has been promoted as domain.com then Pr will pass to it and no PR to www.domain.com

    PR definitely has value.
     
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  15. mirainfo

    mirainfo Active Member

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    #15
    Hello Friends,
    Thank you for sharing your comments. Actually if you refer to any past reccord then untill a week back DMOZ was PR8 even with www. I was experimenting something and I noticed it went down to PR0. LOL

    PR is nothing but a rating exclusivly by google based on the trafic record and back link record obtained by google. It is never true that a high PR will get more trafic but yes the reverse may be true provided google gets to know about the hits you receive.

    Now about DMOZ, I can not disclose exactly what I did but yes I did something by which DMOZ with www was delisted by google. This means it was treated as spaming. Now this also means that there is a security flaw in google system, this is becuase I have no relationship or control over DMOZ but I could bring its PR down. Similarly one get someone else's site rank down.

    Friends, I will try to get more closer to it. I am sure by sharing our experience we can help each other and make our best attempt to keep our site safe and get going.

    Best Regards
    MI
    :)
     
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  16. kh7

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    #16
    As if!
    I don't buy that for one minute. I think you did something that just coincided with dmoz getting smart about google sitemaps. After all, when they cleaned up their database, it is one only a small step to get a sitemap account and fill it in properly.
     
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    FireStorM Well-Known Member

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    #17
    Lol You dropped Dmoz to PR 0 ? thats a bit strange , it has PR 0, am happy i got no site there :p
     
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  18. aaron_nimocks

    aaron_nimocks Im kind of a big deal Staff

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    #18
    Are you saying that you dropped www.dmoz.org down to a PR0???
     
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  19. Andyz

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    #19
    Do it with dmoz.org too and I believe. :D

    But saying that PR has no value...as long as you don't lose it, it definately has. Or I don't understand your point.
     
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  20. Indian

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    #20
    Yes, that is what he means.
     
    Indian, Feb 4, 2007 IP