Am I the only person not looking forward to the PR update? I am trying to help my father out with his website (about 1600 pages of quality comedy). The site is predicted to go from a 4 to a 3. and only gets about 25 visitors a day. I've just started to work on the optimisation of the site (big break through was to convince him to use text on the main page and not just pictures of links to other pages, though the home page still needs work). I now need to go through the 1600 pages and link back to the main and subsection pages. He did do a few good things though, ie promoting on forums etc, and it's a very nice site content wise (makes me laugh anyway). Anyway, if only the PR update was delayed for at least another 2 weeks, I'm sure that i could at least maintain the PR4! Maybe even get a 5 (there will be about 1000 extra pages liniking to the home page!) So anyone else rather have google take their time?
Who cares is toolbar goes up or down? Unless your're a link broker it's about as worthless as worthless can get. If I were you I would excited that I was able to work on a site with 1,600 pages of real content. That's a solid base to start from. Every second you spend worrying/thinking about PR is a second wasted
I care about the toolbar PR. I need some toolbar PR on my new link exchange pages, so that I can run a decent reciprocal program.
Cheers guy from chicago, I feel a little better now, im told him what google was last week, now he has adsense on a couple of hundred of his pages Nohaber, also agree with you too I would like my father to get visitors, and to earn a bob or two from the site in the long run
As much as I hate talks of PR, I need it to. Not for the value of it doing anything, but a lot of webmasters still think "if your site doesn't have PR, then it must not be good" or " you must of PR# to get on our link pages". Bullshit. I don't have time to explain to everyone how it works. I've even set aside a template explaining how PR works now...but that gets tiresome to send all the time. So, yes, me too, I'm looking forward to a PR update so that I can do some link exchanges with "not in the know" webmasters.
I look at it like this - I don't want to deal with people (in link exchanges) who are concerned with PR. To me that says the person on the other end doesn't really understand web marketing and whatever link I could get from them most likely would never be worth the time I spent e-mailing/talking to them. Just my preference. edit: to the silly person who sent me this comment in private "PR counts in the business world; We don't live in an idealistic utopic world." I only have one thing to say - build your house on a sand foundation and watch it get washed away.
The serps are not sorted in order of PR. Do just about any search you can think of and look at the top 10 results. Lower PR pages will outrank higher PR pages and vice versa.
I did a search for a phrase that is of interest for me, it went 7,7,6,5,6,7,5,6,7,7 The 5's were sub pages of higher ranking pages, so I guess that though the order is not based on the exact highest order, that a reasonable high PR is useful.
I kinda relate PR with Alexa: If your not in the top 100,000, the traffic isn't too accurate. Kinda like with PR, if you're not a PR6+, then the PR you're served with isn't too accurate. [QUOTE="GuyFromChicago]edit: to the silly person who sent me this comment in private "PR counts in the business world; We don't live in an idealistic utopic world." I only have one thing to say - build your house on a sand foundation and watch it get washed away.[/QUOTE] He must've ment Press Releases. Silly person, Google's PRs for kids.
I think that as time goes on, people will value PR less and less. What is important is the amount of traffic you receive, and how targeted it is. And until PR is able to accurately reflect that information, it won't be of much value.
I have a lot of sites. I also have been testing a few things. Predictions look alrght as well. Cant wait for PR update.
maybe the pr is a tiny bit of a factor in your rankings with the other optomization stuff... don't know for sure - I just got a little SEO job for a guy that has a pr3 on his website but he has zero optomization going on... I mean nothing, not even keywords or page titles and he ranks nowhere in google for 90% of keywords he should have. he has 3 keyword phrases that do have rank but the best one is at 50. Anyway, I'm learning not to focus on rank, it obviously didn't do this guy any good to have a little of it and his competitors don't have much more so as was said, other than for link exchanges with people who care, there doesn't seem to be much value in it. Lisa
Sigma, Yeah I had a similar thing with my dads site, PR4, but no keywords or text on the front pages, 10 titles used throughout 1600 pages, most of the pages not having links back to the major pages etc. (it's going to be a long job, with lots of page redesigning to be done, but it'll be worth it in the end). It's a shame as it is a very funny site, his letters to airline companies are genuine, they are hilarious, I particularly like his one to Lufthansa (please don't read if you are easily offended)
Darn, it's easy to get bad reputation points. What I was trying to say was that PR is NOT that important becuase if it was, I would not be getting into the top of so many searches with a PR of 6. But apparently that requires retribution from someone. It's funny this reputation thing. I've gotten dinged with comments like "Go back to canada...." and "" (that was for this thread.) Guess I'll get hit again for this post. But with the reputation, I've noticed that there's no way to take something back (as in an accidental ding) or to protest a moron who dings you for Heaven only knows what (as in "Go back to canada"). Anyway, that's my little self defense.