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PR confusion

Discussion in 'Search Engine Optimization' started by kash, Jun 20, 2004.

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    I own the website newcarprices {.com}, I will refer to it as (websitename)

    It used to be PR5 both with

    1- www.(websitename).com
    2- (websitename).com

    now, the first listing has changed to PR2 and the other remains at PR5. I have seen other scenarios that website names without www have the lower ranking, but in my case it is opposite. Any explaination?
     
    kash, Jun 20, 2004 IP
  2. digitalpoint

    digitalpoint Overlord of no one Staff

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    #2
    They are two different sites as far as Google is concerned.
     
    digitalpoint, Jun 20, 2004 IP
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    Old Welsh Guy Notable Member

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    Yep two different domains in the eye of Google. You need to 301 the non www. to the www. as you ae wasting page rank on it.
     
    Old Welsh Guy, Jun 21, 2004 IP
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    expat Stranger from a far land

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    sure? has this changed? I've noticed a split on some domains but not all after last update , so far G was sorting this out usually within one update regarding www. and non www as one domain without sending 301.

    M
     
    expat, Jun 21, 2004 IP
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    digitalpoint Overlord of no one Staff

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    #5
    You probably were just seeing one of the "sites" filtered because it was duplicate content.
     
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    kash Peon

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    Thanks for all your help guys.

    Can I ask for one favor: can you please pm me a sample 301 page. as I am SEO rookie :-(
     
    kash, Jun 21, 2004 IP
  7. digitalpoint

    digitalpoint Overlord of no one Staff

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    #7
    There really isn't a "page" because it's a redirect within the HTTP header. What server platform are you running your site on?
     
    digitalpoint, Jun 21, 2004 IP
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    expat Stranger from a far land

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    Well I do not see why I should institure a 301 when it's just G's problem.
    A 301 is a genuine redirect and should not be used to fix things...

    I run a valid and correct DNS alias entry thus I will not please G.

    http://www.webmasterworld.com/forum3/22572.htm
    contains GG answer about this issue

    We rebuild this data every few months and it's getting toward time to rebuild it again. We try to guess for a domain whether domain.com is the same as www.domain.com (it isn't always), so that can help with this issue.
    best,
    GG

    So they got it sort of wrong which doesn't surprise me anymore

    M
     
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    digitalpoint Overlord of no one Staff

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    #9
    Agreed... and that's not really the issue, since Google does see the content. But if you are running two different sites with identical content (which is essentially what you are doing if you don't redirect), you may be better off choosing one or the other. That way you aren't running duplicate content.
     
    digitalpoint, Jun 21, 2004 IP
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    expat Stranger from a far land

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    Shawn I know you're right, it's just sheer frustration as from a marketing perspective with and without is what I need. It would also give me the ability to crudely and cheaply load balance (via DNS) across two datacenters under growing traffic as MySql sync is easy with the latest versions.

    What I simply fail to understand is what does it take to simply read in a dns set up / zone file when the crawlers suck in 300-500 pages daily on the below domain alone......

    M
     
    expat, Jun 22, 2004 IP