PR claims rant

Discussion in 'Directories' started by newsniche, Nov 24, 2008.

  1. #1
    I'm afraid I am going to rant again.

    Why do directory owners claim to have PRx directories when soliciting submissions.

    I know their index page has PR but none of the inner pages have PR so a submitter will never benefit from this.

    I don't mind PR claims when the directory has inner PR because at least there is a chance of being listed in a PR Page.

    Otherwise there is no difference than submitting to a zero PR directory.

    I think some inexperienced webmasters may fall for this trick but I would think most would see right through this.

    What you say?
     
    newsniche, Nov 24, 2008 IP
  2. AnonymousUser

    AnonymousUser Peon

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    Yeh I always thought the same thing. But then again, Its always good to submit because in the future if the index page has a PR of e.g. 3, Eventually the inner pages will gain from that link.
     
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  3. sachamps

    sachamps Peon

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    #3
    I think people should pay less attention to the PR and rather see if those inner pages have been cached more recently. I've noticed a lot of directories have lost their inner page PR.
     
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  4. mikey1090

    mikey1090 Moderator Staff

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    #4
    They are dropped domains. You can usually tell because their domains are crap like "xybca2004.org"
     
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  5. WallaceYeung

    WallaceYeung Notable Member

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    #5
    if the directory has inner page pr,
    the pr should probably be real.
     
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  6. Red_Knight

    Red_Knight Banned

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    #6
    Good sites don't need to chase pagerank, so it just shows how many crap sites there really are. Even the ones with high PR are just selling it, and if you have to sell PR, then the site is also crap.

    If a site/directory is brilliant, it should be fine without PR, it's traffic that advertisers want - NOT PR. I want to know that when I place a link, that link gets clicked on lots, I want the traffic to my site so they buy or look or talk about what I have to offer.

    So many don't get the web or what it's about, they only see the $$$$$$$ :rolleyes:
     
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  7. hotftuna

    hotftuna Active Member

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    #7
    Many of them know that they will loose their PR so they are trying to sell it while they can,
     
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  8. Red_Knight

    Red_Knight Banned

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    #8
    That just proves they don't know what they are doing.
     
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  9. syted

    syted Notable Member

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    #9
    As a rule of thumb if an announcement title includes the PR it's a dropped domain. Most savvy directory owners with a genuine PR will not use that to promote their site.
     
    syted, Nov 24, 2008 IP
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    swedal Notable Member

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    #10
    How timely an example posted here in this forum no less than seven times.
     
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  11. newsniche

    newsniche Peon

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    #11
    Maybe somebody somewhere should do something:)

    I feel the need for a new sticky on Solicitations & Announcements informing the less well informed of what to expect and to look out for when submitting to a directory.
     
    newsniche, Nov 25, 2008 IP
  12. tonemediallc

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    #12
    I'm officially done chasing page rank as of this week. Time is better spent on building legitimate, sustained audiences for my websites.
     
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  13. ms2134

    ms2134 Well-Known Member

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    #13
    I have seen this many times, i am trying to work with my directory (THE CIS LINKS DIRECTORY) , to link up and add articles to the site and also get the inner pages ranked well also.

    I dont think it has a rank right now, but i am working hard, using WhiteHat only techniques to get good ranking...

    ~ Mike
     
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  14. mikey1090

    mikey1090 Moderator Staff

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    #14
    You'll struggle to get categories to rank well for anything. Trust me.
     
    mikey1090, Nov 25, 2008 IP
  15. ms2134

    ms2134 Well-Known Member

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    #15
    It may be a long and hard struggle, but i intend to use a fair bit of my spare time to help build back links, and keywords for each category in my website links directory.

    It may take some time, but in the end, it shall pay off for myself and the people who have their links in the
    The CIS Links Directory.

    Regards,
    ~ Mike
     
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  16. mikey1090

    mikey1090 Moderator Staff

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    #16
    Even with link building, content, on page optimisation etc it's still hard. It's all about the niche, environment that pages, links, backlinks, content, domain etc sits in.
     
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  17. anguspm

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    #17
    The same things over and over again, which one? The PR debate.

    Well yes it is annoying to see directories announced as PR such and such but this is what the market is demanding:

    "Submit my site to high PR directories!"

    When it comes down to it PR is something that early directories tried to use to sell links. Nowadays IF the submitter has any sense he´s looking at a directory for SERP benefit, keyword commonality and Traffic potential.. in that order... BUT will the submitter ever become that educated? Probably not....

    Why not? Because google invented PR. A great marketing gimic to give the surfer a rough idea of the importance of a site relative to others. It has never been anything more than that....

    I think you´ll find that until there is a truly quantifiable accurate traffic measure / user voting / feedback people will be head down only interested in "PR". Personally I think its great. I just keep building categories with unique titles, headers and listings and genuine SE traffic keeps going up and up... Why? Becasue it does what a directory is suppossed to: It helps the user find what he´s looking for. Oh, and its a PR0 directory ;)

    So, leave those who want / are interested in PR to continue chasing it. Me, I´ll stick with great SERP´s and the traffic they bring!
     
    anguspm, Nov 25, 2008 IP
  18. mexabet

    mexabet Well-Known Member

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    #18
    Interesting thread! But not all those mentioning PR in Solicitations originate from dropped domain directories. That can easily be verified by checking with whois.domaintools.com/name of the site.

    However, I do agree that a directory with PR would most naturally have inner pages with PR too.
     
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  19. comroute

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    Can be annoying!
     
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    #20
    If a site claims to be PR4 and it is a PR4 then that is what is a PR4...what's behind the page is another matter, which becomes the submitters responsibility. no tricks in there.
     
    wwws, Jan 11, 2009 IP