PR can someone answer this?

Discussion in 'Search Engine Optimization' started by kevs, Mar 20, 2007.

  1. #1
    Been trying for awhile to get a non vague answer to this not succeded yet:

    Don't I want as many links to me from pages with higher PR? or the PR does not matter?

    Or does Google "see" the link is from an established highly regarded directory site ,for example lets say with a homepage ranking of 5-8, and raise your general ranking regardless of what page the directory page you end of on?

    I need to know this because some of these quality directly have pages that are PR at 3-4, and other and 0 to 1.

    Have not got any cogent answer on any forum on this. I think it's pretty straighforward question.
     
    kevs, Mar 20, 2007 IP
  2. mjewel

    mjewel Prominent Member

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    PR is 100% determined by the links pointing to your domain. The PR of the page linking to you is what passes PR, not the PR of the domain or home page.

    About 85% of a pages PR can pass to your site, but the PR is divided equally between the number of links on the page, so a PR7 links with a lot of links might not pass as much PR as a PR5 link with only one link. Each increase in PR (PR5 to PR6) takes approximately 6 times the PR.

    Unless you are going after PR for selling links, you want to concentrate on links from relevant sites. The best links will come from sites already ranking high for the keyword(s) you are targeting.
     
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  3. Janna122003

    Janna122003 Banned

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    You can get PR if you have quality links and the site has reach content.
     
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    Mjewel says everything read that carefully
    If you want to raise ur Pr then try to get more links from other sites/directories/blogs,
    If you want to see urself high on SERP then try to get more linkns from ur relevant sites
     
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  5. rehash

    rehash Well-Known Member

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    "established highly regarded" are the important pages from that site, not all pages, so if your link is on a low pr page, you don't have any special benefit
     
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    CountryBoy Prominent Member

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    It's the PR of the page linking in that counts - if you're tucked away on a PR0 page of a PR8 homepage directory you've lost out.
     
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  7. kevs

    kevs Active Member

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    Janna, if you don't have anything so say, don't respond to my posts. that's really annoying. That's why this forum is the last SEO on my list to post. People have nothing to say, and just post to show their links. Why is this allowed?

    Of course -- Daykevi's response was just as lame.

    Country boy thanks being only one to address my question.
    So is this as cut and dry as you say? I need to know. I'm spending money and time on directories, but lot of them my links end up on pages with zero or 1 PR, but the page is often the most appropriate. But I'm considering asking them to move my link anyway.
     
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  8. kevs

    kevs Active Member

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    sorry rehash, you reply had some value. Business.com , for example, has great reputation and page rank. You spend $199 yr, and you end up on a page with zero page rank-- what do you make of that.... is the ranking value then worthless?
     
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    SERPs is mainly from anchor text.
     
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  10. kevs

    kevs Active Member

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    business.com no shows no page rank on homepage
     
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    kevs Active Member

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    Sorry to you also Mejewel, did not see your reply, scroll bar screwed up.
    Actually you are getting closer to my question than most.
    Cut to the chase for me then. If I'm have a listing on a good directory like business.com, and other good directorie, should I worry about the PR of the page I'm on, or does Google just "see" that I have a link with this respected directory and the inner page i"m on does not matter. this is what i need to know. thanks!
     
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  12. mjewel

    mjewel Prominent Member

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    If a page does not have any PR, and assuming it isn't a new page, it won't pass any or very little PR (a PR0 technically can be as high as .99PR). I don't what is going on with business.com, but I would worry about a site that doesn't have any PR. Many directories don't have any PR on their inner pages. That is a red flag to me as google is trying to cut down on the selling of PR. Another indicator is if the pages are showing as "supplemental" in the google index.

    Google's Matt Cutt's has mentioned 3 directories that he would recommend:

    botw.org
    dmoz.org
    yahoo directory

    I think the vast majority of directories carry very little weight with google. Other than the three above, I would much rather have a link from a relevant site. It is my opinion that the days of getting a good boost by submitting to a hundred or so directories has passed as far as google is concerned, although they seem to still carry weight with yahoo, and msn (as long as it doesn't trip the MSN spam filter they currently seem to be using).
     
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  13. CraigslistGuy

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    1. The page you are linking from, not the index, determines the PR
    2. The fewer the links on that on that page, the better
    3. A website which content is not similar to yours, is no link
    4. A website which has a low density of keywords used to describe your business is no link.
    5. Google has a way of determining keywords. If you are selling travel services, then air tickets, vacation resorts, hotels, cruises become recognised keywords. These are collateral keywords or complementary keywords. So a site might not have the word travel but would still be a good place to link from if it has related keywords.
     
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