PR 3 ranks lower than a PR 0

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  1. mvandemar

    mvandemar Notable Member

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    #41
    Yes. It was actually a concept suggested by a guy by the nickname of JoeBob a few years back, and he coined the term BLOOP (Back link Over Optimization Penalty). Many, myself included, thought it was just a conspiracy theory, but it does seem to hold water:

    http://forums.seochat.com/showthread.php?p=111440

    More recently, Matt Cutts did confirm that it is possible to harm a websites rankings by pointing too much link juice at it:

    http://forums.digitalpoint.com/showthread.php?t=384385

    In reality it probably has to match a pattern of link building to trigger the penalty, but you can definitely reproduce it if you try.

    -Michael
     
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  2. jiosis

    jiosis Well-Known Member

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    #42

    I would disagree with that.
    If it would hurt your website's ranking, you can use it to hurt your competitor's ranking and it seems unfair.
    Google always confirmed that some links may have 0 value on your ranking but they've never confirmed that links can have negative effect since a lot of people may use this effect to beat their competitors. so if they find the links spammy they may consider them as 0 value. (IMHO)

    The over optimization penalty is when you do something on your site for example repeat a word or phase again and again with the goal to optimize the page for that keyword, then your site may get penalized.
     
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  3. mvandemar

    mvandemar Notable Member

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    #43
    You should follow the links, that's exactly what the article that Matt confirmed is discussing.

    http://www.forbes.com/2007/06/28/negative-search-google-tech-ebiz-cx_ag_0628seo.html

    It has nothing to do with "fair", it's just how the algo works. Google is so hyper-paranoid about people gaining rankings by gaming their system that they are more than willing to allow innocent sites to suffer in the unsuccessful attempts to stop it.

    -Michael
     
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  4. kirby009

    kirby009 Peon

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    #44
    It's like when google ranks a page it can be done without the pr showing.
     
    kirby009, Jul 6, 2007 IP
  5. BigMumu

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  6. SticKer

    SticKer Well-Known Member

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    #46
    the page rank has nothing to do how your site ranks in search engines. the content available on the pr0 site maybe more relevant then your site
     
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  7. cynia

    cynia Well-Known Member

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    #47
    Thanks everyone :)
     
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    jhnrang Notable Member

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    #48
    I am just wondering if you really verified the site before you concluded.

    According to me -- www.prchecker.info is a PR7 authority site. -With Google emphasizing on putting more authority sites on top of SERPs -- it is a WONDER that you can still compete with this site:eek:

    Please check

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  9. jiosis

    jiosis Well-Known Member

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    #49
    LOL, you got him wrong !
    He refers prchecker as the place to check his site's pagerank, not as a competitor.
     
    jiosis, Jul 9, 2007 IP
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    #50
    Ahhh-- Yes. It was my mistake.:eek:
    My sincere apology to the OP:eek:
     
    jhnrang, Jul 9, 2007 IP