PPC Arbitrage: Getting Started?

Discussion in 'Pay Per Click Advertising' started by Jazzcat, Nov 17, 2006.

  1. #1
    I'm familiar with the concept of arbitrage, and I've heard that it's a great source of revenue when it's done right. My question is about how to go about arbitrage so I don't lose my shirt. What are the "best practices," so to speak? Any advice or articles you could give on how to do arbitrage successfully would be appreciated.

    Thanks in advance.
     
    Jazzcat, Nov 17, 2006 IP
  2. fryman

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    Do you really expect someone to give you lessons on how to do arbitrage?
     
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    How about just don't start.
     
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  4. Jazzcat

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    Hmm, guess I should have done more research before posting this. I was just wondering if anyone had any resources or tips for me. Sorry, Fryman, I didn't realize I was being so naive.
     
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  5. topaffiliateprogram

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    here are two ways ....
    1. buy cheap keywords and sell them at high cost . For example a keyword like " Shopping " may cost you $1 but a keyword like " shopping in africa " may cost you 5 cents ... So buy cheap keywords and sell them at high cost ( simply displaying your site using cheap keywords )....
    buy traffic from cheap network who advertise your website in 2 cents a click and expect 40-50 cents a click from other ad network ....

    however all this works on trail basis for example take a risk of $50 and see how much you make and if you fail change the statergy and try again , keep doing it until you dont get success
     
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  6. fryman

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    Arbitrage is very, very difficult to do. As you said, it would be more easy to end up loosing your shirt.

    And if someone actually knew a way to do it, you can bet they wouldn't share it even with their closest friend.

    Ciuanuro is right... just walk away from this idea and look for other options of making money on the net.
     
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  7. Grokodile

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    Shoot. I've been toying with this side of things for months now. Luckily, I set my campaigns up for low daily expenditures, so I guess it's more of a time consuming game more than anything else.

    Heh, this won't be anything you don't already know... but find sources of cheap traffic. There seems to be a three way tradeoff between quantity, price and quality that somehow always manages to not be in your favor.

    On the outgoing side, you obviously want to work on your click ratio and your price per click. At least on this end of things you can get a bit more input into the process... as the visitor is sitting there on your page.

    My advice would be similar to others, don't bother jumping into this as a goal, but if you happen to fall into a profitable niche, quietly exploit it for the period of time that it continues to work (without taking big risks). Sometimes I think I'm an idiot for not finding anything worthwhile, but there are two things that keep my from being too unhappy: 1) if it was easy... 2) pushing the envelope on traffic cost and on click earnings is a valuable skill to develop in general.
     
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  8. acheron

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    You should try to play with arbitrage, this is the way on which you'll learn most.. I think people who earn big money with arbitrage will not just post their idea here because in short time all users will use his way and then it's over for him.. Some are afraid of competition :)
     
    acheron, Nov 19, 2006 IP
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  10. flip

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    Arbitrage may have been huge awhile back, but i don't know, that was before my time. certainly, you would want to leverage the power of AdWords to make arbitrage work, but the problem is that AW's landing page quality score makes it difficult to put out the skimpy, bare-bones landing pages that arbitrage seems to require.

    i employ a minor form of "arbitrage" to run ppc campaigns as a testing ground to see how users react to different keywords...one residual effect is that i make a few bucks off of the it. but i don't see it as a way to make any kind of real income. who knows, maybe there are people out there that do.
     
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  11. itsme

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    I would share it with my friends... and my Mom.


    TIP: Take advantage of CPM ads and FIXED RATE adverts... but make sure you have kick ass CTR.
     
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  12. andyem

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    7search still has many low paying high traffic clicks and is a cheap way to start. Then use MFA pages to direct your traffic to. Your bid can be as low as .01. If you do enough snooping around in 7search you can find the high traffic, low paying keywords. Only problem is dont expect huge amounts of traffic and the limit per account is 10,000 keywords. Minimum signup is 25$. Try it once and see what happens. Worst case all you lose is 25$.

    I have 2 accounts with 20,000 keywords all at .01. I get about 500 clicks daily. My MFA pages have a 500-1000 page article surrounded by 3 adsense ads (1 link banner, 1 368x280, and one 720x68 banner across the bottom).Each page are targetting for 30-60 cents per click, sometimes higher. For me ARB has been additional income, along with other ways on the net.

    Many ARB experts use the bigger engines for more traffic but they know exactly what they are doing. Give it a try, it works.
     
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    Wickedfire forums is definitely the place to go for arbitrage tips, but I will tell you now that unless you have some ability to write or develop some custom scripts, then you will work your tail off for very little money.

    There are people working hours and hours to make $20-100 per day. Hey, money is money but if those people applied that same amount of time to affiliate marketing or to a particular business then they would probably be making far more by now.

    Google's new smartpricing really complicated the arbitrage issue unless you have a bunch of experience with it already, have some good contacts willing to share info (beyond baseline info you get in forums), or have plenty of money to burn while learning.
     
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    Yeah your right, I would love to scale big on arbitrage but I just dont have the time or resources

    There is a script on WF that rips content related to a keyword that you specify from Wikipedia and images from a stock images site

    You hit next, add you pub id and channel and hit submit.

    1 page lander with keyword article, pic and adsense completed. :D
     
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    Wickedfire does seem to have a pretty strong arbi focus ;)
     
    progress, Dec 21, 2006 IP
  17. RTj

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    The answer is in my signature Jazzcat, read the ebooks, it teaches you how to arbirtage PPC to CPA offer. It's Free ;)
     
    RTj, Mar 14, 2009 IP
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    yea right ... that post was from 2006 :p
     
    acakadut, Mar 14, 2009 IP