Hello Friends, Can anyone tell me how can i post my website to a particular category in DMOZ. Regards Sheel
DMOZ is a complete joke. So far I've been waiting 6 months to get a site listed, I've got no faith that it ever will get listed. Perhaps, it's time there was a replacement for DMOZ - surely we can come up with something better.
There's a "suggest url" link on the top. If your directory doesn't have one, go into uppropriate subdirectory.
If there is no "submit url" button for that category. It is usually because it is a target category for spammy submissions. And usually after a few 1000 irrelevent, affiliate, mirrors, cloaked url, etc. submissions to one category, the submit button is turned off. Find a better fitting category for your site. Probably in a sub category.
Sheel - be sure and read the submission instructions very carefully. If you violate the DMOZ submission protocol, it could result in the delay or rejection of your listing.
I've been wondering about this. Is this a flaw in DMOZ or is this a procedure they employ? Trying to reason, I believe DMOZ may wait for a period of time before listing any given site, because it want to be sure that the site will actually hold value in the future as well as not become a dead link in a short time. I'm sure DMOZ receives thousands (if not millions) of links each month...and if they submitted each link they receive they will be faced with 75% of dead links by the end of the month. Could waiting a long period to get listed actually be their systematic way of doing things?
Hmmm... good point. There are a number of DMOZ editors who post to this site. Perhaps one of them will be able to validate the theory.
I am an editor. As far as I know, there is no holding a site before listing it procefure. In some of my caught up categories (no more waiting for review) if a site is submitted and I happen to feel like editing that category, that day, I will review and edit that site. It is not uncommon for some sites to be listed within a day or two. IF that category is caught up and doesn't recieve 200 spam submissions per day. If your website is on topic with the majority of others accross the net (mainly-Shopping, or Computer related) you will have a LONG wait to even be looked at. These are the type categories that draw the most submissions AND the most spam. Now, I can't speak for every editor, but I think most all editors just edit the sites in order of the waiting list. A short list=a short time until review. Later, Rob
Thanks for the clear up Rob777 Therefore, my site is computer>internet related ...I suppose I will have a long wait. My site is only a month old from 'going live'....my submission to DMOZ is 2 months old, plus I have submitted a duplicate (45 days later)....will that affect my submission? And if so, how do I fix it? Or am I screwed?
antonaf, There are a couple issues here. 1. You submitted your site before it is live? Do you mean it is still under construction? This could be bad- If by some slim chance your site was reviewed quickly, it probably got deleted with an editor's note "under construction" or "not found" what ever your case happens to be. Some (few) editors will place an under construction submission in a watch list that they can check on once in awhile and seeif it is done yet and ready for "possible" inclusion. And some editors will tag the comment above and leave it in unreviewed to check on later. If they check back a few weeks later and the site is still not done, they will delete it. 2. The duplicate submission 45 days later. Is usually not a problem (95% of the time). But some editors are strict and you might catch one on a bad day, etc. The majority of editors will just delete the duplicate and leave one submission to be edited when it's turn comes. Sometimes in the higher categories I will chainsaw dupes from the list that sometimes are as many as 10-15 of the same site. I still leave one to be edited. It would be nice if we could submit our site when we first think about building it so that hopefully Dmoz will finally get to it when we are finishing the building of it. But then you take the risk of getting deleted for not being a complete site. I can't say for sure, but in my opinion, your site probably hasn't been looked at yet, and if you get it done before they review it, you should fine. (as long as it meets the guidelines for inclusion). Hope this helps, Rob
No, my site was not under construction when I submitted it but it was still being optimized, but it had all working links. Actually, it was unofficially open for the first month....it had active members but was still being worked on in the background and optimized for search engines...keywords, adding content, meta-tags, etc. Thanks for the info. I'm taking your heed and guessing I haven't been reviewed yet. I will not resubmit again for at least 6 months. See what happens! Thanks.
Oh ok. For you and everyone else who might read this thread. Dmoz does not care about the meta tags, alt tags, and other optimization. I get a lot of update requests..."we have just changed our meta keyword and meta description. We would greatly apprieciate it if you could update our listing." The only concerns we have when reviewing a site is the ease of navigation, complete and not under construction, very few broken (internal) links, and CONTENT. We see some visually horrific sites , but they can still be included if they provide good content and are functional. Have you seen some of the tripod free hosted sites in the directory. They will not win any design awards, but they offer good content. We review the sites thinking about the users browsing the ODP, not about the search engines that spider the directory. So if your only problem was lack of SEO...No worries. We don't look at that. Later, Rob
That's good to know. That works hand-in-hand with a point I was trying to make here: http://forums.digitalpoint.com/showthread.php?t=13838
CBP over at WebProWorld has repeatedly said that if you re-submit your site to DMOZ it will go to the bottom of the queue. So there in fact IS a penalty for re-submitting. If you believe the Resourceless Zone DMOZ editors, there is also a penalty for asking what's going on with your site more than once within a 6 month period. While I respect your courtesy, Rob, and what a few others here have said about you as a DMOZ editor, I have to say that I don't think the way you "do business" as an editor is at all representative. Read the statements of numerous editors at the RZ or on other forums (WPW being a good example) and you'll get a very different picture. As for the hypothesis that DMOZ editors deliberately leave a site in queue to see if it sticks around or as some measure of longevity, forget it. It's not there to prove anything, other than perhaps that the DMOZ editor for that category is god and won't be questioned -- it is there until if and when the editor deigns to have a look at it, or perhaps never if s/he thinks the category is full enough.
He must have some sort of tool that he uses then. Because the way an unreviewed list is displayed to us is in 4 options. We can sort by date submitted, alphabetical url, title, or category. There is also the regular list display. which lists sites newest at the top to the oldest at the bottom...(but this is not in a 100% order because of the sites that editors moved from different categories. A 2001 submission might be between an April 2002 and a May 2003, because the other editor sent it over to this category in that time frame. There is nowhere there for us to send a site to the bottom of the list (unless someone made an editing tool that I haven't heard of). I think the only way to keep a site at the bottom is to leave an editor note stating the heavy submitter label. Which makes it so when he clicks next on the list and this site comes up, he can see the note and then just skip it until later. Yes there is. If someone is a heavy multiple submitter (1 a day evry day, 3 times a week, etc.) they will have their urls tagged with an alert status to let the editors know what is hapening. (we can also see the url's history of edits, so it is not like they can just tag any site without cause and us editors not know about it). But a couple submissions in a couple month time span will not (SHOULD NOT) be penelized. The penalties are for spammers, aggressive deeplink submitters, or sites that are already listed and keep trying to get their site listed in another categories. Thanks. I understand your frustration with the RZ. I do not go there often, it is too hostile for me. I edit like I have learned from those around me. Maybe that is why I think that the majority of experienced edtors are straight up. I have read many of there statments, and too me it seems like they are explaining the guidelines and people are not understanding them. And the more the editors repeat the guidelines, the more people get frustrated and so on. And I admitted sometimes it might seem like a couple editors might have a god complex on occasion. But back in the ditors zone, they are nice and willing to help the other editors like a community. I don't know?? I really shouldn't talk about the PR because I am not i that area. So I will stick with the rules and procedures of the actual editing, in my comments. That is false. We as editors are instructed and expected to manage the category. Meaning that when the list of sites reaches a big size 70-200 sites (up to that category's editor's best judgement) we are supposed to start breaking it down into new sub-categories. There is no set number to decide this, but generally when we get about 20 sites that could be placed into their own sub-category, it is time to create a sub-cat for them. We are NEVER supposed to ignore new sites because a category is too big. And the categories that can't be broken into sub-cats, but start hitting the 100's of sites in the category, an alpha-bar is created and the sites are sorted into each letter. Like the personal homepage category or artists, they are sorted into an alpha-bar. Sorry for the long post AGAIN! Later, Rob