You're not the first person who has rejected after being presented with the above. My purpose was simply to convey.
The war the verse talks about was happening there and then. The Qur'an gave a date and said what seemingly was imposible at that time will happen within nine years. This has nothing to do with your quote above. Earlier I remember some comment from you about how the devil can do miracles.... He can do things which break the chain of cause and affect, but these acts are not miracles because the Devil does not claim to be a Prophet.. A true miracle is an act which goes against the laws of cause and affect and occurs on the hand of one claiming to be a Prophet. This can absolutely not occur if the one claiming to be a prophet is actually an imposter. You see God does exist, you agree with this. He cares for his creation and will not let false prophets fool all of humanity to the point where 1.5 billion people rever him and consider him the best of creaton.. something to think about.
If you want to post non-prophecies to make Mr M sound more impressive it doesn't affect me at all. I made an honest request. As for cell phones, there are many examples throughout history of people making similar predictions about technology. So again, what are the most conclusive prophecies you can find that prove to you that Mr M was a real prophet?
"The Qur'an gave a date and said what seemingly was imposible at that time will happen within nine years. This has nothing to do with your quote above." Seemingly impossible yet the events were unfolding at the time. Meaning, it was no more than a sports bet that was completely unrelated to the Muslims. And the point you're missing is that the Bible said the Roman empire would rise again but not as strongly. If the Persians had won the Bible would have been wrong. Mr M was most likely familiar with OT prophecy and saw it being fullfilled. Jesus saw the destruction of Jerusalem 40 years after his own death.
Dude, God cares for his creation.... he would have let events unfold in a manner so as to disprove the prophecy.... do you not understand this.
"he would have let events unfold in a manner so as to disprove the prophecy.... do you not understand this" "would" or "would not"
hahaha, this is getting interesting.. The Qur'an gave a date... the Roman victory occuring even just one year past that date would have left the Bible true and also have disproved the Qur'an's prophecy.. the Prophet was illeterate... the disbelievers in Makkah would also say he was being taught... you see it's more than what you though it was, huh? Edit: if the Prophet (pbuh) was an imposter, God would have not let events happen the way they did within nine years, so as to disprove the Prophet's claims once and for all. This is what I'm talking about.
"the Prophet was illeterate" Yeah sure. And so was Joseph Smith. "God would have not let events happen the way they did within nine years, so as to disprove the Prophet's claims once and for all" Why? God allows people to believe the lies they want to believe. 9 years is a rediculously imprecise timeframe. Mr M agreed with the Bible and gave a good guess. There's always someone playing prophet. If God wanted to wait until all the false prophets were done yapping, the war would have never happened.
Allowing to believe, and substantiating truthfullness by miracles and prophecies are two entirely different things. You will not be able to show me one example of a false prophet who has presented a genuine miracle, not one.
So what you're saying is, that Roman thing was the best prophecy you've got. There are many made up tales of people doing miracles. The Bible talks about false prophets doing all sorts of signs and wonders. The Devil himself can do miracles. If you hadn't thrown the Bible away you'd know that. All you have to do is come up with one real prophecy that Mr M made all by himself that came to pass.
Nope.. a false prophet will never ever be able to present a true miracle. You haven't proven anything. Where does it talk about in the Bible that false prophets were allowed to present miracles? Everything in the bible is not proof anyways, because you can not establish it's textual authenticity. Can you prove that every word in the bible was uttered and recorded during the life time of Jesus (pbuh), and nothing was altered. Here is an interesting thead about this: http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?p=6423890#post6423890
"The emperor comes to speak about the issue of jihad, holy war," the pope said. "He said, I quote, 'Show me just what Muhammad brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached.'" http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/pope_and_islam True back then, true now. Another truth you have little faith in GOD DOES NOT LIKE VIOLENT PEOPLE. Islam will never prevail. It is unjust, unfair to its followers, its prophet waged wars, married 16 women including a 9year old one when he was 58 years old for sexual pleasures. No matter how many people believe in the Muhammad dogmas more and more peaceful muslims are not practicing Islam as Muhammad preached it. A Divine Teaching is supposed to help you all the time. It will never make/ask you to go to war to kill and distroy. Many muslims will live in their dogma until one day they find out the truth. The sooner they find it the better for them. My religion Christianity does not teach war affairs. It teaches Peace and Love.
Yeah, I remember making a post there last year just to get BS fed. Who are you on there? Syriankid who got banned?
Yeah sure... there are other threads you can spam up in this forum besides this one. I was referring to the Islamicaweb forum and that Palestine one you registered at a couple of days ago. I don't post at BB.com I just link to the material because of how well presented it is. Your five questions in that post you linked to, did they ever get addressed?
If I was him, the Islam haters on this board would have been put in their place long ago. I'm not him. Of course, we do have similar understandings though.