Yes, Mohammed was a liar and a blood thirsty child molester. Just read his "gospel" the Hadith... Crazy man for a crazy religion. IN Christ, the one and only TRUE Messiah spdude... truth is truth. Why do you and these Imams want to hide the truth? Because you love the lie of violent takeover, which, incidentally, will destroy you and yours. Stay away from our buildings and be not crushed. IN Christ
When "attacks" against Islam are examined rationally, it comes out ON EACH ISSUE that Islam should be the accusing party indeed, not the other way around. "Of all the world's great men, none has been so much maligned* as Muhammad." W. Montgomery Watt, Muhammad at Medina, Oxford University Press, 1956. * ma-lign: v.t. to speak harmful untruths about... (R. H. Webster's).
Boy, you're using the wrong expression. You should say we don't care about the facts and believe what serves us the best and to achieve it with violence like Mr m
Sadly, I expected this kind of reply We can all be brothers as log as we practice these simple ideas. "Love each other. Love your neighbor like yourself. Love your enemies." Imagine a place where these ideas are practiced. Would be real nice, wouldn't it? sunlove
I've not yet seen a single Islam bashing thread on DP. And I've been here pretty much since the start.
So, is there nothing more which can be contributed to this discussion beyond the insults which have led to the banning of at least two members, and the closing of that false accusation of "Jews being decendents of pigs" thread.
Is it this one or the falsely named jews being decendents of pigs one that makes you want to shoot yourself?
No, that's the thread your were your bud just couldn't lie his way through it. As we saw, time and time again, muslims have often referred to Jews in this manner and the last link I provided shows curriculum being taught. Surely you are not trying to continue forward the deception?
ok, i'll steal your money, occupy your land, fuck your wife and i'll be glad to be called "terrorist" after that man, wake up and face the truth, Muslims are defending themselves against the jews and some coward americans who fight from stealth i think u see alot the scene of about 4-10 Israeli soldiers full armed running infront of a palestine child chasing them with a stone that's what are Israeli soldiers are, punch of cowards driven by Bush the white elephant - just like cowboy movies
So, GTech, what are you saying: 1) Islam teaches that present day Jews are decendents of pigs and apes, or 2) SOME Muslims have made the mistake of referring to present day Jews as being sons of pigs and apes? Surely, you can't be so foolish into confusing these two issues and thinking they are one and the same, I mean seriously, there are limits to foolishness. More importantly if these are the things which are stopping you from looking towards Islam as a true extension of the Abrahamic faiths then I don't think there is any purpose or any benefit whatsoever in us further engaging each other unfortunately. You see, our purpose in debating is never to win, or own, or take to task (as you like to put it) in the sense of overpowering an opponent simply for the sake of overpowering. The day that happens we have lost. ------------ Answer the damn question, please.
That is about the short of it, how islam took over the middle east as we know it. No group has more experience occupying other countries than islam. Speaking of cowards...
Our issue with the state of Israel is always a military one. Remember I said it's a two step solution, a) an Islamic state will be established, and then b) regulated Jihad will be waged in order to stop oppression and re-liberate the lands.. this is about war. You will not agree with this. Hense the need for war! It is not about land, it is about fullfilling injunctions and submitting to the will of the Creator both inwardly and outwardly. So what is your problem with this?
What's my problem with it? I think you've already summed it up quite nicely. Israel was Israel long before a false prophet invented islam. Of course, we could work together to "liberate" the occupation of the middle east and other areas by islam. Wouldn't it be nice to liberate all those lands from evil?
So, if your jihad is to simply re-liberate lands (presumably from 1967), what is the excuse for Arabs slaughtering Jews in 1921, 1936-1939. And the war in 1947, in which 6,000 jews were killed? Was all that about re-liberating lands from 1967 too?
No, what I was saying is, your bud was lying and in continual denial about muslims referring to Jews as pigs and apes and I more than documented such. Case closed. There is no room for manipulation here. My point was simple. I didn't need complexities to prove it. I'd say continual denial up to the point where I documented the curriculum and after was a sign of deception in an attempt to win. Your bud lost Truth prevails over lies. Did you want to continue on with the denial, or was my point simple enough for even a mufti to get it? Don't be going jihad on me here