Poll ~ The Flood & Noah's Ark ~ Fact or Fiction?

The only people who will be confused by it are the people who don't know what generally means, Which apparently is only you.

 

I believe it and if you don't thats just your opinion. and don't ask me how I can be so stupid to believe that because most people believe that the earth came by an explosion of shit that turned into all kinds of life forms after how ever many billions of years....thats the stupidest bunch of bs made up by some guy 150 years ago by taking wild guesses about a bunch of yellow birds that flew around an island.

 

Well you obviously have an extremely in-depth understanding of science. Case closed everybody, Noah had a boat, science is wrong.

 

I wasn't aware that Einstein, Friedmann, Hubble and company were busy scratching their heads while Garibaldi was nearing the completion of his dreamed Risorgimento. Oh, Darwin. Yep, pure quackery.

I'm sorry, Clinton. In all seriousness, I don't ask you "how you can be so stupid," and I don't judge you. I would ask you, though, the basis for your opinions.

 

I actually think some of the current theories revolving the great flood are rather interesting. Anyone watch discovery?

Here's one claiming that the end of the last major ice age (7000 years ago) is the origin of the story:

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0009/17/sun.03.html

Another one is that a comet/meteor landed in the indian or pacific ocean and caused a flood around the expected time frame.

Kinda interesting. Both of them.

I think Noah's story comes from other sources though - possibly Gilgamesh. Since Noah was added to the bible, if memory serves, after the fact; the story seems to be more a cautionary tale of not obeying god than reality. I think that sums up most of the stories, really. Some minor grounding in reality, then story telling after that.

 

How can this story be true??? After all it's in the Bible isn't it?

Oh wait: there was a time when science believed there was about 1,100 stars. Nowadays however we know the Bible was right when claimed there are an infinite number of stars.

Wasn't also the Bible that said long, long time ago that the Earth was round? Wasn't also the Bible that claimed Each star is different, Blood is the source of life and health, Ocean contains springs long before science confirmed it?

 

It is a really nice fairy tale and very well told. Sadly, just like Rudolf Giuliani it is completely fake.

 

Sorry to inform you here. You are making a false claim about what you know about me. Is there a limit to how many sidesteps you do before you will answer a question?

 

didn't the bible also say a crapload of stuff that isn't true, like the moon being a source of light when actually it simply reflects tghe sun's light? Does scientist being wrong before mean that they are always wrong?

 

You so got me here NOT. How do I know what scientists believe now won't be reviewed in a few years time just like they always do???

Truth can only be described as truth as long as it can be defeated. The Bible is the most attacked book in the history of human kind. And guess what??? It's still the #1 book and it will still be the #1 book long after you and me are gone. I agree with science and even statistics sometimes. One statistic I agree with is 10 out of 10 die. This is also described in the Bible.

 

When is the next Harry Potter book out?

 

There could have been a worldwide flood, but no boat was there to save animals.

 

I get the impression that Harry Potter is not a scientific book whatsoever.

 

Many people say the same thing about the bible

 

I agree with you. Among other reasons that could be that if the Bible is in fact true, that means they will have to give an account to God about the way they lived their life.

Just like many who think they are "good people". That is until you ask them if they ever told a lie, if they ever stolen anything, if they ever hated anyone. All these are considered sins (or transgression of God's Law). So plenty of reasons why many fool themselves by saying it's not inspired by God.

 

I asked two questions. why aren't you answering them?

 

Scientists use scientific method to gain a better understanding of the world. It is an empirical approach, and heuristic in nature, meaning, we use what we have that has done a good job in explaining the known to plumb further into the deep.

To the extent that a given theory is built on solid observation and rigorous thinking, is testable, and can be replicated, it is what it is - useful. Science makes no other claim.

 

You said some people will be confused. I pointed out that so far it's apparently only you. I was willing to let this go, But if you insist on continuing to make out that you are right and i am wrong i will continue to point out that you are the only one who was apparently "confused" by a simple sentence written in plain English.

I clearly said that myths generally have an element of truth to them, Which most people agree with. And then you posted a list trying to prove that not all myths have an element of truth, Which is basically agreeing with me while at the same time trying to prove me wrong.

So when someone tries to prove me wrong while at the same time basically agreeing with me i have to conclude that they didn't understand what i was saying.

I hope i have put that to rest now, This is an interesting thread and it doesn't need your pedantic bickering in it.

I don't remember you asking me a question, But post it again and I'll be happy to answer it.

 

To answer your questions you say the Bible says a crapload and yet you only mentioned one SINGLE possible thing that you think is wrong. So I think from the start your presumption is wrong.

Is the moon a source of light or not? Can you see at night because of the moon or not? So what if it reflects it? You can still see better at night because of the moon.

And for your second question you must admit scientists were wrong and were wrong many times. Especially when it comes to evolution: they always come up with something new. A new theory, a new belief, a new might have been a comet, or might have been a meteorite, whatever.

The scientific books are constantly being revised. The Bible does not get revised. It's been the same for thousands of years. In conclusion: scientists make many mistakes.

 

Firstly, in regards to the myths, I never said I was right and you were wrong. I was asking if you generally think that the other myths I mentioned have an element of truth.

Me bickering? You continually accused me of not knowing the definition of the word "generally"......LOL...who's being pedantic here?? OK...OK..enough....LOL...I wasn't trying to prove I was right and you were wrong...was only asking a question. But don't worry. The discussion has moved along.