[Poll] Obama or Clinton?

Discussion in 'Politics & Religion' started by WeedGrinch, Feb 12, 2008.

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Obama or Clinton?

  1. Obama

    80.0%
  2. Clinton

    20.0%
  1. #1
    I was wondering who you want the Democratic nominee to be.
     
    WeedGrinch, Feb 12, 2008 IP
  2. Emie.

    Emie. Banned

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    Obama! Can I use your avatar? >.>
     
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    atomsplash Peon

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    I'm fairly conservative, but I'll more than likely vote Obama over McCain. Clinton, not so sure of. I voted Edwards in the caucus (was registered independent, so couldn't vote in Republican)
     
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  4. Zibblu

    Zibblu Guest

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    I prefer Obama over Clinton. I think he's more honest and I think he's someone I would be proud to call our president (unlike George W. Bush) ... While there doesn't appear to be a great amount of policy differences between them, I think the fact that Obama was one of the few politicians against the Iraq war back in 2002 gives an example of why I feel he's more trustworthy than your average politician. Also today he voted against retroactive immunity - another good sign of what kind of dude he is. (Clinton didn't vote.) I'm also happy that he's made some positive comments about the decriminalization of marijuana (while he hasn't stuck to his guns with that 100%, I believe for political reasons) I certainly think there's a better chance of him helping the decriminalization movement than Clinton.

    Note: I'm not comparing Obama's honesty to someone like Ron Paul or Mike Gravel - those guys are in a totally different league. But the fact is you can't be as honest as Paul & Gravel and have the media pay any attention to you or have a real shot at winning. There's only so much honesty and rational thinking allowed in politics.
     
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    earlpearl Well-Known Member

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    I voted for Mrs Pants Suit today in the Virginia primary. I had a hard time choosing between she and Obama.

    I kept going back to the fact that in the times I've seen them she is more precise and knowledgeable about facts and issues.

    I wouldn't have a problem with either candidate in the general election.

    My biggest problem w/McCain is the war issue.
     
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  6. WeedGrinch

    WeedGrinch Active Member

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    Heck yea! Go for it :D
     
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    Shazz Prominent Member

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    Obama, at least he can tell the truth :)
     
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    wisdomtool Moderator Staff

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    I find Obama more fresh faced, more of outsider, whereas Clinton seemed the more experienced, the more insider. But Obama looks definitely far more friendly.
     
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    Game Producer Well-Known Member

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    I'd vote for Bill. :rolleyes:

    Not. :D
     
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    korr Peon

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    I like Obama. Hillary's ties to the weapons industry is extremely worrisome to me and her health-care plan amounts to $150 billion in corporate welfare for the insurance industry. Obama's plan is still expensive (more expensive?) but it opens up competition in the industry and sets more realistic goals with a plan of reducing costs.

    Of course, its only recent and its only been rhetoric, but Obama has been taking the libertarian positions on some social issues like the WoD and Patriot Act/Telecomm immunity. He's probably stringing us along, but I'm falling for it...
     
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    Zibblu Guest

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    korr, I don't think he's stringing people along on those positions. If anything those are politically dangerous positions to take. At least the War on Drugs stuff. Perhaps not in the Dem. nomination process.. hm.. We'll see what he says in the general. Candidates tend to move their rhetoric more "centrist" and I'm certain he'll probably say some stuff I won't appreciate much during that time, but... there won't really be a choice at that time. He knows he'll have all of the liberals on his side - so he'll be moving to the center to attract moderates. It's all a bit of a game. But I can only blame them so much for it - because - I think it's the only way they have a shot at winning. Sad as that is.

    I must say, this is a bit rambling. But basically I'm cautiously optimistic about what Obama can do. I mean, I think he's an incredible speaker and will be someone that we can actually be proud to call our president. I think he'll do a huge amount of good for our country's reputation around the world. That alone is worth something I think. As far as his actual positions, we'll see how much he tries to do. I'm hopeful he comes in and just kicks ass. I really think that America is ready to end the war on drugs. But he'd have to really care about that issue to risk his political career on it... we'll see ;)
     
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  12. M.IMRAN

    M.IMRAN Well-Known Member

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    #12
    obama may be better then clinton.

    but who knows!!!!!
     
    M.IMRAN, Feb 13, 2008 IP