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[POLL] IF Ron Paul looses out in the Primaries, Who would be the next best candidate?

Discussion in 'Politics & Religion' started by gauharjk, Dec 23, 2007.

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If Ron Paul looses out in the Primaries, Who would be the next best candidate?

  1. Barack Obama

    73.1%
  2. Mike Huckabee

    7.7%
  3. John McCain

    7.7%
  4. Hillary (Bill) Clinton

    7.7%
  5. Mitt Romney - Not Possible! <surprise>

    3.8%
  1. gauharjk

    gauharjk Well-Known Member

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    #101
    I wanted to know, whats wrong in supporting liberals? What is a liberal? How are republicans different from liberals?

    Why would Mccain or Huckabee be better than Obama or Kerry?
    SEMrush
     
    gauharjk, Jan 13, 2008 IP
    SEMrush
  2. guerilla

    guerilla Notable Member

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    #102
    Today's modern mainstream candidates are all basically centrists. They cater to both the right (conservative) and the left (liberals).

    Typically the thing that distinguishes them is that the liberals tend more for the welfare state, and the conservatives for the warfare state.

    But these days, there is a dramatic blurring of the lines, so much so that the dog and pony show of the elections really isn't fooling anyone that they won't get basically the same sort of government from either side. For example, Clinton and Obama approve of anti-civil rights legislation, and endorse the aggressive foreign policy in a subtle manner. McCain, Giuliani and Romney both flirt with amnesty and greater governmental controls.

    It was not always this way however.

    Classic liberals were concerned with small government and civil liberty.
    Jefferson, Jackson, Cleveland

    Classic conservatives were concerned with small government and economic liberty. Goldwater, Taft, Coolidge.

    We've come a long way since we held those consistent American ideals of small government in high regard.

    There is nothing wrong with being a liberal, if you know what true liberalism is. Just as there is nothing wrong with being a true conservative. Both are noble ideologies, and at their heart, not incompatible with one another.
     
    guerilla, Jan 13, 2008 IP
  3. gauharjk

    gauharjk Well-Known Member

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    #103
    Thanks for the information friend... :)
     
    gauharjk, Jan 14, 2008 IP
  4. Mia

    Mia R.I.P. STEVE JOBS

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    #104

    That you are.. ;):eek:
     
    Mia, Jan 14, 2008 IP
  5. Will.Spencer

    Will.Spencer NetBuilder

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    #105
    I concur.

    The Republican Party? Nahhh... as soon as this election is over, those fakers will leave the party as quickly as they joined.
     
    Will.Spencer, Jan 16, 2008 IP
  6. Mia

    Mia R.I.P. STEVE JOBS

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    #106
    I have a different take.. I don't know that America wants Obama or Hillary.. One is inexperienced, one is a power monger..

    If I ever switch parties, I'm going for Edwards. The guy seems honest, smart, and obviously knows what the hell he is doing. I guess he just does not have enough hype, lacks a smug attitude, and willingness to throw caution to the wind and run under false pretense..

    There is something about this guy I like... I think he would have had a better chance than Kerry last go around.

    I just do not see either Hillary or Obama making it for more reasons than I care to even begin to discuss...


    Aint that the thruth... This smells so much like Perot, I can taste it.. The similarities are uncanny!
     
    Mia, Jan 16, 2008 IP
  7. ncz_nate

    ncz_nate Well-Known Member

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    #107
    if that doesn't constitute for a personal attack then will.spencer is indiana jones and my hat is on backwards.
     
    ncz_nate, Jan 16, 2008 IP
  8. Mia

    Mia R.I.P. STEVE JOBS

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    #108
    But he does love that Constitution so.:rolleyes:
     
    Mia, Jan 16, 2008 IP
  9. Mia

    Mia R.I.P. STEVE JOBS

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    #109
    Are you moderating the threads now? Might want to take that all into the context in which it was delivered before delivering an ill informed opinion.

    I think Will could pull of an Indy... Got the look, the gusto, and the know how!

    oops.. my apologies.. Now that I re-read, it looks like Nate here was referring to AGS.. Well in that case, I agree... It was an attack.. Bad, bad AGS.. Very Bad...
     
    Mia, Jan 16, 2008 IP
  10. ncz_nate

    ncz_nate Well-Known Member

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    #110
    ok suits me. but next time i call someone a fuckface and i get slapped with a ban or more infractions i'm coming straight to this thread to say uh uh uh!
     
    ncz_nate, Jan 16, 2008 IP
  11. Mia

    Mia R.I.P. STEVE JOBS

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    #111
    "uh uh uh" about what specifically?

    Are you off your meds again? Relax man, its and internet forum.. Can't behave, leave. :cool:
     
    Mia, Jan 16, 2008 IP
  12. ncz_nate

    ncz_nate Well-Known Member

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    #112
    wait you're telling me to relax? you were the one who has negged me along withyour band of nazi pirates who hate what i say.

    i just want a level playing field that's all.
     
    ncz_nate, Jan 16, 2008 IP
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    guerilla Notable Member

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    #113
    Just ignore Mia nate. Neg Rep is all the Nixon Gang have going for them. :)
     
    guerilla, Jan 16, 2008 IP
  14. Will.Spencer

    Will.Spencer NetBuilder

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    #114
    Man, I hated Richard Nixon so bad that I supported Jimmy Carter in 1976.

    How's that for stupid? Out of the frying pan and into the fryer!

    Disclaimer: I was in elementary school at the time.
     
    Will.Spencer, Jan 16, 2008 IP
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    d16man Well-Known Member

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    #115
    I'm starting to wonder if our poll is actually accurate...I am beginning to wonder if osamabama can actually be the hilldabeast.
     
    d16man, Jan 16, 2008 IP
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  16. GTech

    GTech Rob Jones for President!

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    #116
    This one is super easy to explain, without a lot of words.

    Watch this.

    If you get a tingle up your spine, feel emotional, feel loyal, a sense of pride and honor, even feel like shedding a tear, you are probably a Republican.

    If you are repulsed, feel ashamed, feel hatred, or can't stand to watch it, you are probably a liberal or ron paul supporter.
     
    GTech, Jan 16, 2008 IP
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    #117
    Im going with Hilary. She will pretty much lead the same as Bill did. And i thought Bill did a very good job. Im pretty sure it will be Bill running it behind the scenes. I also think we need a female president, even though im a male. But if Obama gets it then im just as happy.
     
    joey112, Jan 16, 2008 IP
  18. Will.Spencer

    Will.Spencer NetBuilder

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    #118
    Wow, an actual liberal Democrat who isn't pretending to be a Republican supporting Ron Paul.

    I was beginning to think that we had lost the last of you on DP!
     
    Will.Spencer, Jan 16, 2008 IP
  19. Mia

    Mia R.I.P. STEVE JOBS

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    #119
    Ditto.. Glad to see someone actually being honest.. I can completely respect that!
     
    Mia, Jan 18, 2008 IP
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    Mia R.I.P. STEVE JOBS

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    #120
    Same here, but the support for JC was due to elementary school itself, and those damn HiLiter Magazines that we used to get.. They had this, children vote poll, where children could vote for President... We were urged to choose Carter!

    Thank God my dad set me straight. I remember walking to the gas station with him (MR. GAS) in Webster. You know, with gas can in tow... Man those were the days.... People think things are bad now? Try 16% interest rates on for size. Gas going from .35 cents/gal to over a buck OVERNIGHT!!! And no gas on certain days.. We hoofed it everywhere back then. Dad was a traveling sales man, so all the gas went into his company car!

    I still wonder how the hell my parents or anyone made it through those times...
     
    Mia, Jan 18, 2008 IP