Poll:At what point should abortions be legal?

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Poll: At what point should abortions be legal?

  1. Legal in all cases

    8 vote(s)
    22.2%
  2. Legal within the first 6 months

    2 vote(s)
    5.6%
  3. Legal within the first 3 months

    9 vote(s)
    25.0%
  4. Legal only for rape, incest, and women's life

    4 vote(s)
    11.1%
  5. Legal only if women's life's in definitive danger

    4 vote(s)
    11.1%
  6. Always illegal

    6 vote(s)
    16.7%
  7. Not sure but lean towards 'life'

    1 vote(s)
    2.8%
  8. Not sure but lean towards 'choice'

    1 vote(s)
    2.8%
  9. You mean I can't kill my 18 year old? ; )

    1 vote(s)
    2.8%
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  1. Czech

    Czech Peon

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    #81
    Obviously I am unable to speak for others that claim to be Christian on this site but as for myself I am a Christian, but what is a Christian ?

    The Greek term Khri·sti·a·nos′ is found only three times in the Christian Greek Scriptures & designates followers of Christ Jesus, not "belivers" only but Followers, I make this point because there is a difference ( a big one ) between the two.

    As a follower of Christ is it my desire to kill Muslims or anyone else ? no, & my reason is simple, Jesus said: “Happy are the peaceable.” (Matthew 5:9) Here the Greek word for “peaceable” means more than enjoying a state of tranquillity, It really entails cultivating peace, actively working to promote goodwill.
    Secondly on the night of his arrest Jesus told Peter ( who was about to kill others who came to arrest him ) “Return your sword to its place, for all those who take the sword will perish by the sword.” (Matthew 26:52)

    As such the principle here is not to kill others, EVEN if it means to protect Christ himself, because of this his Followers did not partake in any wars.

    Note the following:-

    “A careful review of all the information available [shows] that, until the time of Marcus Aurelius [121-180 C.E.], no Christian became a soldier; and no soldier, after becoming a Christian, remained in military service.”—The Rise of Christianity.
    “The behavior of the [early] Christians was very different from that of the Romans. . . . Since Christ had preached peace, they refused to become soldiers.”—Our World Through the Ages.

    So when someone 'claims' to be a Christian yet is willing to kill others ( regardless of who they may be ) I agre with you in saying that they are indeed being hypocritical.
     
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  2. yo-yo

    yo-yo Well-Known Member

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    #82
    Assuming that they are christian: you, mia, debunked, i can't remember.. is henny christian too?

    You've all expressed you're joy as innocent citizens of Iraq and now Palestine/Lebanon are being slaughtered without care. You simply try to "justify" it with "well there's terrorists there, so we don't have to take any responsibility for the people who get killed"

    I didn't write the bible, I'm just asking all the christians to either practice what they preach, or stop preaching :D
     
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    yo-yo Well-Known Member

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    #83
    Awesome!! so we can agree that Bush is a hypocrite, and not a man of god. We can also agree that everyone here who claims to be christian, and tries to justify the murders taking place in Iraq/Lebanon/Palestine, are also hypocrites who only follow the parts of the bible that are convenient for them. :)

    I guess that also makes the "christians" who support the death penalty hypocrites as well :D
     
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  4. GTech

    GTech Rob Jones for President!

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    #84
    So you are saying you can provide a reference for each of "us" "voicing their approval and desire to murder all the world's muslims without mercy and label them all terrorists."

    I would be satisified with just one reference. Let me know what you come up with. Assuming that you cannot (I know you cannot, because I've never seen anyone, let alone the names you mention above) say any such thing, is lying the best course of action? Do you really think people buy into it?

    Could we get just one source, from one person, from that lie? You didn't have anything to say about the innocent Jews being slaughtered with daily rockets going into Israel, did you? I didn't see it, but you do elude to (every one hundred posts or so) that you hate all equally.

    I look forward to those references.

    Are there any other religions you would like to start practicing what they preach, or stop preaching? Probably not, huh?
     
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    yo-yo Well-Known Member

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    #85
    You're own posts have shown that you believe the quran makes muslims hate jews/christans; which makes them evil terrorists. You've stated you don't mind all the terorrist being slaughtered... so what are you objecting to?


    Here's henny voicing his support for the indiscriminate mass murderring of millions of muslims.
    Here's henny again with another gem, showing his desire to Iran succomb to daily mass murders and chaos:
    Oh, here's a nice one from mia saying all muslims who live in lebanon are guilty by association:
    And here he is voicing his support for the mass murder of all the lebanese people (and syrians):
     
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    Czech Peon

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    #86
    In my personal experience this often seems to be the case, but again I make the point I am not talking about anyone else on this forum who are a Christian, I don’t know them, what they believe or what they do.

    I can only speak for myself.
     
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  7. GTech

    GTech Rob Jones for President!

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    #87
    Yo! You need to check yourself here.

    Let's revisit what you claimed the following people have said:

    you, mia, debunked, i can't remember.. is henny christian too?

    further:

    Not one of the quotes you chose to offer as your proof meets with the false claims you've made. Not one.

    Then to take it a step further, you offer:

    I've not said this either. Which is why you did not source a post to back this up.

    Are you sure this is the line you want to cross?
     
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    yo-yo Well-Known Member

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    #88
    You can chose to blind yourself to the truth and meaning behind the posts gtech, doesn't really change anything. ;)

    What you've said:

    1. is that the quran tells muslims to kill christians and jews.
    2. you believe those muslims who kill christians and jews to be "terrorists"
    3. you don't believe in rights for terrorists

    2+2 adds up gtech. It adds up to you believing muslims are terrorists. Are you changing your mind now? :D

    Which one is it? Are muslims terrorists or are they not? Make up your mind!
     
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  9. GTech

    GTech Rob Jones for President!

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    #89
    I'm just asking for you to back up what you said. If you can't do that, you should retract what you said. I understand your hatred for Christians, but the things you said about these people are not true. This is evidenced by a continued refusal to post even a single example for just one person.

    Again, I ask, is this the line you want to cross?
     
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    #90
    I've actually bookmarked Latehorns post, revelling in the death of other civillians, so embaressing that eventually he himself had to remove it and the thread was locked by a moderator.

    http://forums.digitalpoint.com/showthread.php?t=111356

    I'm still waiting for you to back up what you said about you calling everybody anti-Semite if they don't agree with you. Can you provide a link to anyone on the forum being anti-semitic?

    I thought not, you're being a liar again,

    Very Christian, lieing and enjoying the death of others :)
     
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  11. GTech

    GTech Rob Jones for President!

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    #91
    I didn't see any revelling, Nor does it fit the criteria that yo! has claimed about others above. I am glad he chose not to pursue the false claims though.

    I've never said anything to the effect that anyone disagreeing with me is an anti-Semite. So your foundation there is based upon a lie in the first place. I cannot help your addition to lying, I can only point out (again) when you do it.

    If you are ashamed of defending the anti-Semitic views in the quran that you have been defending in another post, you should not defend them. Instead, you should go back to attacking Christians and Jews. You were much better at attacking them, then defending the anti-Semitic views. Why I bet you could even qualify yourself again, as rasied Christian, but not a Christian. 1/4 Jew, but not a Jew. Just think, with those credentials, you could say just about anything you want in your quest to just point out the bigotry of others.
     
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    MattUK Notable Member

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    #92
    LOL - you're as mad as a box of frogs

    I think I'm breaking my second rule of life

    "Never argue with an idiot, they'll bring you down to their level and beat you with experience"
     
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    yo-yo Well-Known Member

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    #93
    Never heard that one before - but dumber than a box full of rocks comes to mind :D
     
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    MattUK Notable Member

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    #94
    I love arugeing with GTech, not only has he been exposed for the liar that he is, but he's also the least logical person in the world ever!

    Granted he's good at debate, but twisting the arguement from where you're making an ass of yourself only works for so long.

    Bless him, it's past his bedtime and the incontinence is setting in. It's time for the nurse to put him on the front porch so he can shout at black people and talk about how he could kill gooks in Nam.
     
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    GTech Rob Jones for President!

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    #95
    Ah, you can do better than that! Try this one on for size: :D

    Whenever you are ready for a cease fire, just let me know. It's all just entertainment for me! Every day is a new day at DP :D
     
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    That's fantastic grandad :) I'm proud of you

    The sad thing is, that's actually true. I know the grandkids are just witing for you to pass on and don't visit you much anymore. I guess I'm probably the closest thing to family you have left :)
     
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    yo-yo Well-Known Member

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    #97
    You can't put the sole blame of his mental state on him; after all he did spend a few years in the army, god knows the majority of them never return to sanity after that ;)

    I wouldn't call it good at debate, good at spreading misinformation, hate, intolerance, right-wing propaganda... yes. :D
     
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    GTech Rob Jones for President!

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    #98
    It's so easy to turn these things around. I mean come on, is this how you want to take it? I'll work with what you offer.
     
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    Oh, the army - that explains it all :)

    "son - in my day we could shoot all the darkies and we got medals for it!"

    He's having trouble adjusting bless him :)
     
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    MattUK Notable Member

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    #100
    That's fantasic grandad - not bad for an old man :)
     
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