Poll:At what point should abortions be legal?

You seem to have it all planned out pretty well for someone who is against it

Again you're making things up huh I've never said North Korea isn't a threat. They're a bigger threat than Iraq ever was. Looks like China will have to deal with them though as George is too busy chasing his oil.

 

Ever heard of sarcasm?

 

Not in your case, you seem to believe in some pretty strange things, so I wouldn't be surprised if you thought that/made it up/the voices in your head told you

 

Whatever you say, MattUK.

I'm just accusing you for something your not guilty for, just like you accused me.

 

Excellent!

 

I Suspect the unborn who is killed may not see it the same way as you.
Being born may be a disadvantage to you, but not to the baby.

 

It could be a disadvantage for the baby, as well. Who knows what kind of circumstances the child would be brought into?

 

Wow... thanks for that original, ensightful, viewpoint. You've completely changed my mind and convinced me abortion is murder. Yawn.

 

Exactly, without the opportunity to live who indeed knows the answer?

Many people In life are greatly disadvantaged to the extreme but they still all love life, if you were to ask any of them 'pick a day you want to die' no one would give you a date, why ? because life, no matter what the circumstances, is precious.

My pleasure, I try to be original at times.......I think it's a gift I was born with

I notice you always mention Matt 5 :44, may I ask is that in jest or Are you being genuine ?

The only reason I ask is that if you do believe in the bible many think we must always forgive others, yet that’s not the case, forgiveness only needs to be made when the other person shows a genuine repentance, otherwise one does not need to forgive as there is no basis for doing so.

 

Oh great, another religous nut to add to the pile

 

So you are saying murdering 1.4 million babies isn't strange?

 

Nope,

Being a racist bigot is though

Time for bed grandad, you've embaressed youself enough and the stains in your pants are starting to show

 

Seems like a bigoted statement to me.

What if he defends hatred of Jews, like you have in another thread? Wouldn't that be ok?

You can't condemn "all" religious people based on the views of a few. Oh wait, you don't condemn all, just Christians and especially Jews. Never mind

 

Usually the one that feels the need to constantly proclaim victory is the one most concerned about whether he lost or not.

Thanks for illustrating that point for me

Oh, and thanks for confirming you don't think murdering 1.4 million babies isn't strange.

 

Souce?
Face it, there is none!

 

Except this, and about 15 of the last pages in the thread.

http://forums.digitalpoint.com/showpost.php?p=1152540&postcount=365

If you are ashamed of defending anti-Semitic verses, I can understand. Have you thought about counselling to help with these extreme views?

 

The answer depends on how many believe in & accept the Bible, how many here accept the bible I don’t know as I am new to this forum, but from a scriptural viewpoint it is clear that at conception, when fertilization occurs, a new life / human has begun.

the Bible makes it plain that God recognizes and respects a life even in its early embryonic development

Psalms 139: 13 – 16

"For you yourself produced my kidneys;
You kept me screened off in the belly of my mother.
I shall laud you because in a fear-inspiring way I am wonderfully made.
Your works are wonderful,
As my soul is very well aware.
My bones were not hidden from you
When I was made in secret,
When I was woven in the lowest parts of the earth.
Your eyes saw even the embryo of me,
And in your book all its parts were down in writing,
As regards the days when they were formed
And there was not yet one among them".


So really it’s not important how many “people” would agree that a freshly fertilised egg is a 'human being', rather what’s more important is “does God agree that a freshly fertilised egg is a human” ?
And the answer to that clearly is Yes.

But as many if not all ( ? ) here may not accept the bible lets look at things from a non Christian view point, when can it be said that a human life begins ?

Many scientists and millions of others logically believe that life starts in the womb at conception. In his book The Mind, Dr. Restak says: “The true beginning and most critical event in our lives is clearly the moment of our conception” ( The Chinese recognize this by calculating age from that moment; as such a baby is considered one year old at birth )



Sept 1989. Fifth Judicial District of the State of Tennessee, U.S.A.
Re: A custody dispute over seven frozen human embryos.

The first issue the court had to deal with was “ Are the embryos to be considered ‘property’ or human beings”?
Professor Jerome Lejeune of Paris, a world-famous geneticist, testified before the court that each human has a unique beginning, which occurs at the “moment” of conception and that as soon as he has been conceived, a man is a man. In other words, beginning at the three-cell stage (zygote), the embryos are, as he told the court, “tiny human beings”

 

Fair play, at least you make more sense than GTech!

The answer is, not many accept the bible at face value

 

It's there to remind the crackpots how hypocritical they are. The "Christians" here on DP arre voicing their approval and desire to murder all the world's muslims without mercy and label them all terrorists. You know that's what Jesus would do

The Matthew quote doesn't say anything about forgiveness, it says to love your enemies and bless them, it doesn't say drop bombs on the families living next to them.

Do you see any disclaimers in there saying "only if they ask for forgiveness"? Maybe I missed the fine print in there saying to hate and murder everyone who disagrees with you

 

Is there a source for that accusation? I'm here quite a bit and I'm not aware of any Christians "voicing their approval and desire to murder all the world's muslims without mercy and label them all terrorists."

Interesting. So *most* of the time, you simply hate Christians and Jews and wish they did not reference the Bible. Like when someone is calling for the wholesale slaughter of babies as a form of population control and saving money on welfare benefits. You'd prefer they not rain down on the baby killing parade.

But other times, when death is at hand, you would like for them to simply lay down and die? For example, when a group guilty of absolutely terrorizing others starts a conflict by crossing borders to kidnap people, torture and murder them, fire rockets daily on them, send in suicide bombers to kill them, you would prefer Christians and Jews to simply die? I think I have a better understanding now.

Hey, we're just Christians and Jews, right? No big loss there. Are there any others you would like to just lay down and die? How about a few Hindus? Throw in a few Buddhists for good well rounded measure? We've gotta hate all equally right? Well, *almost* all.

Wouldn't you first have to find someone who is suggesting to hate and murder everyone who disagrees with you? I must say, I don't think I've ever seen someone who hates Christians and attacks the religion almost daily, actually lie while trying to use scriptures to highlight lies.

Ah, but I forget, you hate all religions equally. Well, at least you say that every hundred posts or so, in between attacking Christians and Jews.