Poker - Game of luck or skill?

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Poker - Game of luck or skill?

  1. Skill

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  2. Luck

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  3. Both

    26 vote(s)
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  1. gotlinks

    gotlinks Notable Member

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    #21
    Unless you know how to cheat :D

    Its luck.
     
    gotlinks, Jan 24, 2008 IP
  2. tarponkeith

    tarponkeith Well-Known Member

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    #22
    No offense, but that's just not true...

    If it is all just luck, why do you continuously see the same faces at the end of major tournaments?
     
    tarponkeith, Jan 24, 2008 IP
  3. joey112

    joey112 Guest

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    #23
    I use to play poker online.

    But it really began to make me bored.

    I think its both skill and luck.
     
    joey112, Jan 24, 2008 IP
  4. gotlinks

    gotlinks Notable Member

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    #24
    Because they know how to cheat? :D

    I used to do a lot of sleight of hand and cheat at poker, it can be done!
     
    gotlinks, Jan 24, 2008 IP
  5. tarponkeith

    tarponkeith Well-Known Member

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    #25
    There's no cheating at those tournaments...

    the better players know the odds... they also sometimes have the ability to get a "read" on a player at a table... on top of that, they're more able to know what to play pre-flop, and what not to waste their money on...
     
    tarponkeith, Jan 24, 2008 IP
  6. Anduril66

    Anduril66 Well-Known Member

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    #26
    The top players make a profit over a long period of time because they take advantage of their opponents' mistakes. It is a game of skill, but unskilled players can win in the short term because it is a game of high variance.
     
    Anduril66, Jan 24, 2008 IP
  7. mightyb

    mightyb Banned

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    #27
    Its a game of odds. You need skill to take read your opponents and take odds into account. When you start playing odds you know you will win overall because everyone has around the same bit of luck. How comes the same people win the same tournaments over and over again? Are they just lucky 10, 20, 60 years running? No, they have the skill to make the right decisions at the right time when the odds are not against them. I'm not the best player in the world but I'm good enough to make a living out of poker. In fact some of you might have seen me on TV at the beginning of the month finishing 10th and walking away with £2100.

    Shamless link for those who want to get better at poker: my poker blog
     
    mightyb, Jan 24, 2008 IP
  8. tarponkeith

    tarponkeith Well-Known Member

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    #28
    congrats on cashing... i play cash games, tourneys are usually too fast for me...
     
    tarponkeith, Jan 24, 2008 IP
  9. mightyb

    mightyb Banned

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    #29
    Thanks! Fast? The last one took me 7 hours. I also had a go at a live event that took me 3 days :confused:
     
    mightyb, Jan 24, 2008 IP
  10. tarponkeith

    tarponkeith Well-Known Member

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    #30
    Yeah, too fast... I have a hard time keeping up with the increasing blinds... I like cash games where I can sit, relax, play, and slowly win enough to smile and keep the girlfriend happy :)
     
    tarponkeith, Jan 24, 2008 IP
  11. daniegb123

    daniegb123 Banned

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    #31
    I went for both because if you pick up a good hand you need to know how to play it. The luck part is getting the good hand :p
     
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  12. mightyb

    mightyb Banned

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    #32
    Oh in that sense i agree :D play the cards you want to play and do so for as long as you like.
     
    mightyb, Jan 24, 2008 IP
  13. amps

    amps Active Member

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    #33
    Well it takes a lot of skill to be competitve but I have seen the best of them win or lose by the luck of the draw.
     
    amps, Jan 24, 2008 IP
  14. Markas

    Markas Well-Known Member

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    #34
    that is very true :eek: never heard about this but I really believe in this sentence ;)
     
    Markas, Jan 25, 2008 IP
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    tzau Well-Known Member

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    #35
    skill more than luck.. but of course you need both so I voted for both :)
     
    tzau, Jan 25, 2008 IP
  16. Rimvis

    Rimvis Peon

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    #36
    skill 85% / luck 15%
     
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  17. Im The ONE

    Im The ONE Peon

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    #37
    I believe its about skill. No matter how can bad hand you have, if you got skill you can make your opponents fold.
    But yes luck is also there, like getting a straight flush at the river flop
     
    Im The ONE, Jan 25, 2008 IP
  18. a2hosting

    a2hosting Active Member

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    #38
    Definitely both. You have to get lucky to get the right cards, but must be skillful in how to proceed from there.
     
    a2hosting, Jan 25, 2008 IP
  19. Markas

    Markas Well-Known Member

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    #39
    can you explain where did you get these percent? :eek:
     
    Markas, Jan 26, 2008 IP
  20. nicangeli

    nicangeli Peon

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    #40
    I agree 100% with that...

    I remember a court in the UK about a year ago declared that poker was a game of luck, and that you therefore needed a license to host tourneys. I was like WTF, yes it's true that if you consistently get good hands, and your chances of winning naturally increase. But you can also equally be dealt sh*t hands and still win the pot.
     
    nicangeli, Jan 26, 2008 IP